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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 320 |
Anyone who uses BP medication during cycles to prevent a high BP?? If so I'd appriciate it if post your experiences. I'm particulairy interested in the following; * Name of the medication + dosage + your bodyweight? * When do you start + stop taking the medication? * Are you under dokter's threatment? * suffering from any side- effects (dizzyness?)? * what's your bloodpressure before & during the cycle + what does the cycle consist of? Sorry for the amount of questions... ------------------     | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2181 |
Do you have natural bp problems or only when on? What is your size like and what was last bp reading you had? You can restrict sodium intake, drink plenty of water and use an anti estrogen for most steroids to keep bp problems at bay. Peace | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 69 |
back2basics, I'm on bp med's (2) and here's some info that may, or may not help you. I take Atenalol (beta blocker) and Avapro (angiotensin-converting-enzyme, ACE, inhibitor) I've been on many other types, however, these for me are the best in terms of keeping my bp down and minimizing the side effects. I take 25 mg's of the Atenalol and 75 mg's of the Avapro. The Avapro also come with a water pill inside of it and in that form is called Avapril. But I try to stay away from that since long term use of water pills will cause electrolyte imbalances which causes other problems. I'm on doctor prescribed testosterone therapy and I also take Arimidex to eliminate E production (or avoid its production). I take both as soon as I wake in the morning. Neither Testosterone or Arimidex makes my bp go up. What does increase my bp is caffeine or anything with caffeine in it. In my opinion (after 15 years of experience) those are the two best bp meds around. But it may not work for you because we're all different. I'd give the Avapro a shot first. You don't even know you're taking that stuff in terms of side effects. As far as I can tell there just isn't any. The Atenalol is a little different in that respect. If I take more than 50 mg. I start to feel side effects although not that bad. So I keep the dose 50 mg or below. I don't see why you couldn't take one or both of these during a cycle. I've added, raised, lowered, eliminated, etc. these med's intermitantly and by my own discretion without incident. They're both very safe and well tolerated. Definitely won't hurt you in any way. I'm 6'3" and 235 lbs and about 15% bf. (fat! lol) But again, I can't take the fat burners because most, if not all, are stimulants which makes my bp go up. If your diastolic bp is reading in the 90's and/or systolic in the 150's at rest (before you work out), I feel you shouldn't be pumping iron at that moment. Don't forget your bp will go up anyway when you're pumping iron, especially with exercises like squats. But if you're up before you even begin, this will have an additive affect to you increase in bp. BP can be serious because of the internal damage it does to your heart valves, heart in general, eyes, kidneys and brain. So it sounds like you're doing the right thing by considering med's while on a cycle. As far as I'm concerned, they wouldn't interfere with your gains at all. Hope that helps. Feel free to follow up with more questions if you want, I'll keep an eye on the post. Later. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 662 |
I take dyazide thrue my cycle,i had verry big problem whit my BP,felt like my ears gona pop out enormus pressure,so i start take dyazide 4 tabs/day 2 in morning 2in evening.after two days was the pressure gone i took 4 tabs/day untill i start piss then i take 1 tab/day,its a safe and mild djuretic. i have not visit any doc,i am at omna,dbol,t3 dyazid right now,and it works find,the best is no water retention, micke | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 423 |
Prinivil is also a good ACE inhibitor. I don't take it but my dad does. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 320 |
The iron game; I have 'acceptable' natural bloodprussure problems; it's - 136/88 at rest. I'm a bit frightened that, when on a medium heavy test cycle, my BP will raise to maybe a 160/100. At the moment I'm at 205 lbs with 10% BF (was 215, before injury). Haven't cycled in a jear because of a nagging pec injury, wich is recoved now. The cycles I've done where very mild ones, so I really can't tell what my bp is during a REAL cycle. 40butpumping, micke, samiam; thanks for the info. You've been VERY helpfull!! At the moment I don't have any further questions (would you mind that I Email when I do)... Kind Regards,
[This message has been edited by back2basics (edited March 03, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 69 |
Wouldn't mind at all. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1381 |
BTB, First if you are hitting test hard (which is great  ) you should use some arimadex. The arimadex will not only prevent gyno but it will also greatly decrease-almost totally so, water retention.I would wait until your BP is actually up to do anything-ie see a physician and have him/her Rx it for you. If you do it yourself Id go with something mild like 12.5 mg(half a tab usually) or 25mg of atenolol. Atenolol is effctive and also sold genrically very cheaply. Bottom Line: Please see an MD before self administering anti-hypetensive medications. I'm a nurse BTW too. Good Luck. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 77 |
There's a lot of great bp meds out there with minimal side effects. Avapro and Prinivil are similar drugs and have virtually no side effects. A few people get a dry cough from Prinivil, but Avapro's side effect profile is the same as placebo. Basically, Avapro is an Angiotensin-II receptor blocker while Prinivil is an Angiotensin Converting Enzyme inhibitor. Both drug lower blood pressure by easing the constriction of your blood vessels, but Avapro is a little cleaner. As an aside, ACE inhibitors were discovered through research on snake venom. Hydrochlorathyazide diuretics such as Dyazide are mild and work great. It is offered as a "pre-packaged" option with a variety of bp meds including Avapro, Prinivil, etc. There are also some other good bp meds out there such as Norvasc, which also eases constriction of your blood vessels but through a different mechanism than the ACE inhibitors and the A-II receptor blockers. It is a new generation "vascular-selective" calcium channel blocker. Don't worry, it doesn't have any effect on calcium absorbtion. I won't go into how it works now because it would take awhile to explain. Beta blockers work great for some people, but a lot of people complain about side effects such as lethargy and decreased sexual performance. All of these drugs work great in combination with each other, in fact they appear to have some synergistic properties. However, using ACE inhibitors in combination with A2 receptor blockers has not yet been proven effective. I hope this helps. |
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posted March 03, 2001 12:27 PM
