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EXTREME4LIFE

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posted March 03, 2001 12:11 PM

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SHIT!!! i just ordered 4 bottles of Brovel T-50 prop from my source and he sent me 2 bottles of t-50 and 2 bottles of Brovel T-100. NOW, i hear that the Brovel T-100 is 98mg/ml of ENANTHATE! oh man, i hope this isnt true.

THE EXTREME


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Barnacle

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posted March 03, 2001 12:13 PM

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t-100 is enthanate, sorry bro.


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EXTREME4LIFE

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posted March 03, 2001 12:19 PM

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That really SUCKS!!! now i gotta save that shit for a bulking cycle when i already have a SHIT-LOAD of Tornel T-200.


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ikedaddy77

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posted March 03, 2001 02:09 PM

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sorry bro that sucks...i guess getting the wroing shit is better than not getting anything at all...always a bright side to look at. later

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MeanOne

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posted March 03, 2001 02:42 PM

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Okay, I just got up, I'm cranky, so excuse me and don't take this too personally, but...

YOU FUCKING MORONS! T100 IS PROPINATE!!!!

TESTED AT 72MGS/ML BY A LOCAL PRIVATE LAB!!!

STOP POSTING REPLIES IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!

I LOVE WATCHING ALL THESE NEW KNOW-IT-ALL'S POSTING STUPID BULLSHIT!!!

Here is it's name:
Testosterona 100

Look it up, PROPINATE, PERIOD! You uneducated assholes!

Thank you, I'm done now...where's my coffee?


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animal B

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posted March 03, 2001 02:50 PM

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thank you meanone...correct


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EXTREME4LIFE

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posted March 03, 2001 07:38 PM

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Meanone.....sorry to catch you at a bad time, but, from what i been hearing on all the other boards, 95+% that have had it lab tested at 98mg/ml of Enanthate. Try not to flame me TOO hard on this one. I just felt screwed over because it threw me for a loop because i'm pre-contest right now and the last thing i need is low-dose enanthate. And we all know how "dependable" Brovel products are.


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MeanOne

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posted March 04, 2001 02:22 AM

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Okay, A brovel product coming that close to it's labeled potency? Ummmm - no. lol, secondly, all you have to do is look up the drugs trade name, which I gave to you. You will see, plain as could be, Propinate...

Whatever boards your own are packed with morons if it's that case. Besides, did they just "Hear that what it tested at" or did they test it? I hold the lab documents from the T50, T100, T200, N200, and various other drugs I had tested to check potency. I have the original, hand signed reports, trust me T100 is PROPINATE!


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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted March 04, 2001 01:23 PM

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MeanOne, I understand being frustrated at this seemingly rhetorical question but this product seems to be a dice throw. Awhile back tests had shown that T-100 was in fact enanthate. That could have just been a particular lot.
Damian Borleone -who happens to know alot about the goings on down south felt that it was enanthate. The reality is this. Chances are it is propionate but at an unknown and inconsistent concentration.
Bottom line-it sucks and there isnt a "gaurantee" (lol) that its propionate.

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lacosta

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posted March 04, 2001 03:06 PM

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It's about time somebody comes out and says what it is. Every time I asked I couldn't get a straight answer and they never told me if they actually used it themselves.


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Pharm Animal

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posted March 04, 2001 03:27 PM

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bump for comment by damien....

i would personally stay away from any of that stuff and just get some arimidex.....arimidex would turn ANY testosterone into a pre-contest/cutting testosterone, which is what it seems you desire....it's kind of spendy but totally worth it in every case

PA


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MeanOne

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posted March 04, 2001 06:10 PM

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Untill I have a lab report, the original copy would be preferable, that tells me it is enanthate, I won't accept it. How can I? I have my copies of the lab reports, with the hand written, real ink (not some stamp of copy) signature from the lab technician and his supervisor. Hell I get it while the ink was still wet, and this was only about 7 weeks ago. Besides, changing the content of the products is something I don't think companies just mess on with one batch. I could post a site for a supplier FROM MEXICO that lists it as propinate, but that is against the board rules. Fact of the matter is this, if you want to beleive it's enanthate, then by all means do so. In the mean time, I will chuckle every time I read it as I hold the lab report in the other hand. It's your choice what you wish to beleive. Me and a supplier from mexico, and a certified private laboratory...or someone who knows someone who had it tested who says it was enanthate...Not knocking anyone, just stating the facts.


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lacosta

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posted March 04, 2001 06:48 PM

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How many people on this board have used the T-100? Because then we would definitely know whether it was prop or not. Also has anybody tried the newer batches?


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MeanOne

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posted March 04, 2001 07:09 PM

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I've used it, hurts like a bitch, my vote is on Propinate. This was for my last short cycle some 9 weeks ago...had the remaining amounts tested...


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Amp

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posted March 04, 2001 07:41 PM

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There was a Lot # that someone posted that they thought was a batch of the infamous enanthate T-100. I checked my bottle and it was the same Lot #. I could do a 3CC shot of it and had no pain or soreness at all so my guess was it sure as hell wasn't prop.


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Damian Borleone

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posted March 04, 2001 09:26 PM

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The initial batch of Testosterona 100 which came out about 1 1/2 years ago contained testosterone propionate @ roughly 100mg/ml. Unfortunately, Brovel couldn't get the t.propionate to dissolve properly at that concentration. They had the same problem with their T100 that Aranda had recently with Aratest 2500--> T.Propionate "crystalizing"--> oil becoming cloudy/murky, etc. Brovel supposedly fixed the problem, and they did- by replacing the test propionate with test enanthate.

Ever since T100 was available it was rumored to be test enanthate especially by people who compete and regularly use test propionate as part of their pre-contest regimen. The results they got from T100 were not what they would expect from test propionate, so inevitably they would all switch back to T50 or any other "real" test prop. And if people want to test it for themself all they have to do is inject 100mg's of T50 into one ass cheek and 100mg's of T100 into the other and they will definately feel the difference.

Btw there have been tests performed on T100 which confirmed it was in fact Test Enanthate and not propionate:

(taken from renegadebodybuilding.com)

Date: July 20, 2000
Author: LOD
Subject: LOD, TO ALL PLEASE READ FYI

Recent tests on T1 have turned out the following RESULT:

T-100-BROVEL Lot #1100 - 0 mg Prop, 115 mg Enan. Lot #4400 - 0 mg Prop, 118 mg Enan.

Date: July 21, 2000
Author: LOD
Subject: T50 Test Results

Two tested from lot #9599, one tested at 46 mg Prop, the other at 51 mg Prop.

And if that wasn't enough- the owner of Brovel, Dr. Arturo Bravo, admitted to his Tijuana-based distributors that T100 currently contained 150mg/ml of enanthate and not the propionate it was supposed to. The distributors had the option of returning the T100 and having them replaced with T50...but guess what? None did, so unless Brovel has figured out how to properly dissolve 100mg of test propionate into 1ml of oil without it clouding the vial I would have to assume the T100 available right now is still Enanthate.

MeanOne... If you have lab tests showing T100 is now propionate please post them so we can put this issue to rest. Dr. Bravo assured his distributors 3 months ago that this problem would be taken care of shortly...so maybe he has. But considering Brovel has been selling enanthate as propionate for over a year now, I seriously doubt things have changed...but you have tests so I may be wrong.

Out of curiosity, what were the results of the other products you had tested?



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MeanOne

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posted March 05, 2001 12:47 AM

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I will go to Kinko's tomarrow and scan them to post. Don't you think it's a little funny T100 tested at 150mgs/mL????HUMMMMMMMMMM

Oh well, I guess that MIGHT just be a typo...yeah, or complete bullshit.


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Amp

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posted March 05, 2001 06:53 AM

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Just to reiterate what I was saying about my bottle of T-100. From my same source I got a bottle of T-50, and one bottle of T-100. A 2cc shot of T-50 caused a good amount of sting and soreness while a 3cc shot of the T-100 that I had didn't have any bite to it. I will never use T-100 ever again. The T-50 was good though.


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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted March 05, 2001 09:13 AM

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MeanOne, The T-100 could easily contain 150mg's of enanthate. t100 has a bad track record so far but maybe they will get off their lazy asses and figure out how to dissolve 1oomg of propionate in 1cc

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