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thor01

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posted March 02, 2001 03:37 PM

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I'm almost half way through my first cycle. Started at 6'0", 180 lbs, 10-12% bf. Lifting for a few years, off and on (injuries/surgery), and not blessed with the greatest genetics as far as size/growth. Four weeks of Ttokkyo Deca at 300-400 mg/wk and 25-37.5 mg/day of Loeffler 25mg ref-b tabs. I've gained over 10 lbs and kept about the same bf%. Good strength gains. Won't impress anyone here, but good gains for me. Plan 2 more weeks of ref-b, 5-6 more on deca, and will finish with clomid. Hope to gain 10-15 more lbs and keep most.

Plan for 2nd cycle is 10 weeks T-200 or Sust @ 400-600mg/wk and Eq 400mg/wk. Finishing of course with Clomid. Nolva on hand just in case.

Couple ?'s -- How much down time do I need before starting 2nd cycle? Would I see better results with a primo or winny sub for eq or is eq best with test to help keep gains and keep bloat down?


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FUZZDOG

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posted March 02, 2001 04:01 PM

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Usually with first cycles, time on = time off

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thor01

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posted March 02, 2001 04:54 PM

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Anyone have any advice re: primo or winny vs equipoise in this situtation?

I have had very good results with the deca on my 1st cycle, my reasoning behind going with eq is due to the fact that eq is very similar to deca and will probably also yield excellent gains on the 2nd cycle.

Or because I have just done deca should I mix things up and try primo or winny with test to get the best results?

What the question boils down to is if you find something that works do you stick with it for numerous cycles or is it best to hit receptors with something very different from cycle to cycle to promote the best anabolic effect?


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