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Anabolic Discussion Board take time to read..enanthate or sust?
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Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 80 |
ok..here's two arguments..one for sust and one for enanthate...i've been trying to decide the better of the two for a whiiiile.. what do you guys think? "Sustanon is a very popular steroid which is highly appreciated by its users since it offers several advantages when compared to other testosterone compounds. Sustanon is a mixture of four different testosterones which, based on the well-timed composition, have a synergetic effect. This special feature has two positive characteristics for the athlete. First, based on the special combination effect of the compounds, Sustanon, milligram for milligram, has a better effect than Testosterone enanthate, cypionate, and propionate alone.Second, the effect of the four testosterones is time-released so that Sustanon goes rapidly into the sytem and remains effective in the body for several weeks. Due to the propionate also included in the steroid, Sustanon is effective after one day and, based on the mixed-in decanoates, remains active for 3-4 weeks. Sustanon has a distinct androgenic effect which is coupled with a strong anabolic effect. Therefore it is well suited to build up strength and mass. A rapid increase in body strength and an even increase in body weight occur. Athletes who use Sustanon report a solid muscle growth since it results in less water retention and also aromatizes less than either testosterone enanthate or cypionate. Indeed many bodybuilders who use testosterone and fight against distinct water retention and an elevated estrogen level prefer Sustanon over other long-acting depot testosterones."
confusing? i dont really think its comparing apples and oranges....this has to be looked into with depth.. i think i'm with slopain, however i've never used sust and have had satisfactory gains on enanthate. ------------------ | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 740 |
sus and eath mix would be great but sus well give you less water over all its enath which is better in gainz.but sus is still great.later ------------------ | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 740 |
but bro if you taking theramx250(enath) that is the BEST..later ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 80 |
ultragainz you have mail ------------------ | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1399 |
Wow... you certain dug into the archives for that one! The second quote is from ME!! How about that? Slopain and I butting heads! ------------------ | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 595 |
I have always liked the four blends of esters, have always made good gains while keeping water retention down. i have also recently done a cycle with Cyp. got good results but didnt like it as much as the sust cycles. All in all, I think what ever you can afford and what ever is available your going to use. During the winter, I dont care if I retain some water, or get that puffy look, mainly because no one is going to see it, but in the summer, when cloths tend to come off more, Im going to use something that helps me retain muscle and deeper cuts than something thats gonna make me look like a bloated toad. | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 479 |
I like sus the best. I did some Durateston from Organon and it blasted my lifts through the roof and I kept most of it when my cycle was over. ------------------ | ||
Freak Posts: 2132 |
GymRats you got a moment for me to pick your brain? | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1399 |
Iron Game, what would like to discuss? ------------------ | ||
Guru Posts: 5502 |
Ok this was before the widespread availability of aratest. I was strongly behind sustanons (and clones although I dont think there were many at the time), but once I started using over a gram two things happened: #1 Propiniate pain started to become a real issue. and #2 The price isnt close to economical. Since then there have been releases of different tests. I have swayed to the enanthate side, and quite frankly have seen no difference other than more oney in my pocket and less soreness in my ass and quads. Thats a blast from the past. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board)
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Guru Posts: 5502 |
The original thread: https://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/08-2000/027327.html ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board)
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Freak Posts: 2132 |
The poor receptor binding ability of oxymetholone compared to that of deca. Will start another thread | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 80 |
gymrat..that was you bro....my dumbass forgot to put your name at the bottom... no one ever accused me of having a good memory ------------------ | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 720 |
Well, from EXPERIENCE, the better product was high quality enanthate (forget that T200 crap). Also, Enathate is able to be included in shorter cycles. Sustanon is for the long cycler. It was designed for homrone replacement therapy, therefore only one monthly shot would be needed. However, for the bodybuilder, this can present a problem. Let's say you victom of GYNO. You have some Nolvadex on hand. You stop using Sustanon, and begin using the Nolvadex. With the Deconate in your system for 3-4 weeks, that's a hell of a lot of "Emergency" Nolvadex to have on hand. Generally speaking, short acting compounds promote great strength and mass increases than their long acting counterparts, provided that blood levels remain somewhat steady. Compare Suspension to Enanthate. The mass gains are definately noticable. Compare high dose Propinate to Cyponiate. If you were to do 300mgs of Propinate every other day, I think the gains would be much better than 750mgs of enanthate a week. However, that's opinion, not fact. From my wallets stand piont, Enanthate is king. From my asses standpiont, it's a toss up. Unless you get the 250mg/mL Ampules of enanthate, which I plan on getting A TON OF, the potency per mL is lower overall. Hence forth, with sustanon, less CC's per week need to be injected. Also, the frequency of injections is lower as well. I take my Enanthate every 6 days, love it. Sustaon could easily be spread out to every 10 days. Your choice. As far as water is concerned, I have seen MANY bloated people from Sustanon, MANY! Using Nolvadex throughout the cycle will help this tremendously, so the question now becomes, do you mind paying a little more for less frequent injections, or paying a little less, but having to inject more often? In that, I think you will find the true question that you have to ask yourself when designing a cycle. | ||
Moderator Posts: 7052 |
Okay, in the end there is no significant difference between the two. It is like deciding between chicken and steak for dinner. They both have protein and will be nutritious. The details only matter to a very small percentage of users. |
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