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  Think it will be alright to run 400mgT200+400mg of EQ a week without antiestrogens

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CRAZYFUCKER

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posted March 02, 2001 02:57 AM

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kind of prone to gyno what do you all think, or should i just run the EQ till i get the armidex and then add the test200, help me make up my mind..


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CRAZYFUCKER

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posted March 02, 2001 03:26 AM

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everybody must be asleep check 2morrow.


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posted March 02, 2001 03:15 PM

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this board pisses me off, a good question gets no responce, while a mod can kiss my ass, or a look at me pic gets burnt up.. it is fucked up..


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Big Johnson

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posted March 02, 2001 03:20 PM

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DUDE. YOU ARE ONE CRAZY FUCKER.

HEY MAN, I'M PRETTY SURE ANTI-ES WON'T HELP WITH GYNO. SO A SEARCH, BUT I THINK THE EQ MAY CAUSE GYNO IN HIGH DOSES. MOST SUGGEST WINNY FOR ITS ANTI-PROGEST QUALITIES, ALTHOUGH SOME GUYS SAY THIS IS B.S.

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CRAZYFUCKER

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posted March 02, 2001 04:54 PM

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In saying antiestrogens i ment nolvadex, armidex sorry for confusion..


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Hungry1

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posted March 02, 2001 08:19 PM

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Big Johnson is wrong. EQ aromatizes to estrogen, not progesterone. Nolvadex will work fine.


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CRAZYFUCKER

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posted March 04, 2001 03:49 AM

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DO you think i need antiestrogens..


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Stew Meat

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posted March 04, 2001 04:32 AM

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Yes, you need antiestrogens. They are not expensive. Do not run nolvadex throught your cycle. If you'd like to run something throughout, run proviron if you can't afford armidex. They will not hinder gains. Nolvedex will hinder the production of growtht hormone as well as by several other methods. Take the nolvadex aftert you see signs of gyno only.


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WC

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posted March 04, 2001 04:50 AM

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stew is 100% on target. Just get em on hand they are CHEAP!!


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The_Iron_Game

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quote:
Originally posted by CRAZYFUCKER:
kind of prone to gyno what do you all think, or should i just run the EQ till i get the armidex and then add the test200, help me make up my mind..

Sorry CrazyFucker but you call this a good question? You are prone to gyno and want to get away without using anti estrogens?

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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted March 04, 2001 12:57 PM

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Crazy-First off , just relax about the lack of responses, they will come.
Second you dont (unless you are prone) need arimadex or nolvadex.

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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted March 04, 2001 01:01 PM

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HUNGRY 1, Big Johnson is not WRONG. Its the other way around. Boldenone does not aromatize to estrogen.Its just like deca and deca ahs nothing to do with estrogen. Before you go and tell someone they are wrong-please make sure your facts are correct. Alot of newbies might read your post and accept it as fact. That would be fucked up.

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bumper129

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posted March 04, 2001 01:09 PM

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I heard that EQ = estrogen..and Deca = progesterone. im about to do a cycle w/ Ultra100... i was planning on having some Nolvadex onhand... can some one clarify if gyno from equipoise is caused by estrogen ?

also can you guys check out my post 1st cycle . a question about anavar ... thanx

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Riker29

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posted March 04, 2001 01:39 PM

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Bump - becuase I too am wwondering about this EQ vs DECA vs Est vs Progest thing as well.


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Riker29

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posted March 04, 2001 02:05 PM

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Bump - becuase I too am wwondering about this EQ vs DECA vs Est vs Progest thing as well.


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dissto

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posted March 04, 2001 02:11 PM

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deca = progesterone
EQ = estrogen

people often compare deca and EQ just because of the similar effects they produce. they however are not chemicaly similar as deca is a DHT derivative and EQ is not, hence deca converts to prog.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 04, 2001 02:16 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Your_Moms_Kneepads:
Boldenone does not aromatize to estrogen.Its just like deca and deca ahs nothing to do with estrogen. Before you go and tell someone they are wrong-please make sure your facts are correct.

You are wrong friend,

EQ = Estrogen
Deca = Progestin

Perhaps you should do the research and not critisize the correct

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bumper129

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posted March 04, 2001 02:23 PM

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Thanks guys for clearing things up.


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Hungry1

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posted March 04, 2001 04:40 PM

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Thanks guys. Why don't you take your own advice next time your_moms_kneepads.


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Jback

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posted March 04, 2001 06:45 PM

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Eq=estrogen-aromatizes at any dosage,not just high dosages-get nolva if you need-if you feel swelling and soreness then take one a day(10mg) until two weeks after your cycle. If you are prone to gyno I would think 400mg of test and 400mg eq would give you some problems-hope not-good luck

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