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corndawg

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posted March 01, 2001 08:15 PM

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My first cycle...I am currently 24yrs old, 6' 175lbs 10%bf...been training naturally for around 5 years(135 @ 18...165 @ 22)...I will begin my cycle on April 1st...I hope to KEEP at least 15 quality pounds...Thanks for all the help you guys have given me...I knew absolutely nothing when I first started researching...Here it is...a bit "pricey" but if you're going to do something-do it right(and safely as possible)...constructive criticism appreciated...

TestE/Sus-----500mg/week 1-8
D-bol---------25mg/day 1-5
Winny---------50mg/day 6-10
Arimidex------.25mg/eod 1-10
Propecia------1.25mg/day 1-10
Milk Thistle--1000mg/day 1-12
Clomid--------100mg/day 11
50mg/day 12

> Vitamic C 500mg/day
> Multi-vitamin with every meal
> 400iu Vitamin E daily
> Liv 52 & Cranberry Extract daily(not sure on the doses as of yet)
> Going to have Grapefruit Juice with my D-bol and Winny

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MUSTANG_18

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posted March 01, 2001 08:21 PM

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HEY BRO! I THINK EVERTHING LOOKS GOOD! IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE DONE YOUR HOMEWORK. DO YOU MEAN 100MG/DAY FOR WEEK 11 AND 50MG/DAY FOR WEEK 12 WITH THE CLOMID DOSAGES? GOOD LUCK ON THE CYCLE

M18

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2Thick

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posted March 01, 2001 08:24 PM

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It looks like you are using too much test. I would cut the dosage to 250mg/week and keep everything else the same.


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corndawg

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posted March 01, 2001 08:59 PM

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2Thick,

Why do you think 500mg/wk is too much...most people that only took 250mg/week on their first cycle wish that they had went 500...I respect your advise...that was one of my first questions when I began setting it up--250 vs. 500...


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Mass Monster

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posted March 01, 2001 09:06 PM

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Corndawg, Its a debatable choice, I mean if its your first cycle you will probably grow good of 250mg for 8 weeks but if you are a big guy 500mg would not be to bad. Its really up to you same sides on either.

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I rechecked at 165lbs bro use 250mg you will save some juice and you will grow especially with the d-bol!

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corndawg

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posted March 01, 2001 09:12 PM

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Mass- So you like the d-bol in there? I had some people that they wouldn't use it on the first go around...


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Mass Monster

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posted March 01, 2001 09:16 PM

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It will give you some nice gains just don't go over 20-25mg a day for 4-5 weeks, you will be fine and get some good gains. Your taking ameridex (sp) so your water retention will be low. It will give you some nice strength early on. I did anadrol first cycle at high does that was a bad idea, but you will be fine. Good luck bro! What kind of d-bol are you using?

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2Thick

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posted March 01, 2001 09:17 PM

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I mostly agree with Mass Monster.


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corndawg

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posted March 01, 2001 09:34 PM

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Powdered...


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Ramstack

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posted March 01, 2001 10:18 PM

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Its looks pretty good if you have the money, but personally I think you're taking too much $hit, I personally think you'll get great gains from the Test/D-bol/Winny clomid specially for your first cycle. Have you considered Eq or Fina on that stack??

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corndawg

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posted March 01, 2001 10:27 PM

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Ramstack,

I agree that I'm probably taking too much shit but I would rather be safe than sorry...all the precautionary stuff just gives me a piece of mind...And yes I really thought about having EQ in my stack but it's not availible for me right now---at least not at a very good price...thanks for the input


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Trevdog

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posted March 01, 2001 10:31 PM

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I am also surprised that 2Thick recommended less test. No doubt he knows what he is talking about and I suspect that his recommendation is because you have dball in there which is a strong anabolic and has androgenic effects too. Good move on the arimex.

I am just coming off my first cycle. I started with just sust @ 250, anavar @ 20 mg. per day, and 1 proviron tab a day. At first I gained quick but after 2-3 weeks really leveled off. I upped the test to 500 per week and continued gaining. A week later I started some eg.

I started at 190, peaked at 211, and am now 206. My bodyfat stayed almost exactly the same.

I think you should leave the test at 500.


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Tulk311

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posted March 01, 2001 10:39 PM

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Im with 2thick on this one, I used 250mg of sust a week and a bottle of ref-b for the first four weeks of my first cycle. I went from 155lbs to 175lbs in about eight weeks. First cycle at that weight, save your self some money and lower the dose, you will still make great gains! Good luck!
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corndawg

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posted March 01, 2001 10:43 PM

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That's why I like this board...people read posts and reply...some of the other boards you have to keep bumping your own post until someone gets interested...GOOD BOARD

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LittleSavage34

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posted March 01, 2001 11:00 PM

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Wow...I would have recommended upping the Dbol, but that's coming from a guy that did 1000mg Sust on his first cycle. :-)


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corndawg

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posted March 01, 2001 11:29 PM

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1000mg/wk...That's stiff savage---no pun intended...What were your results???


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Keep it beefy

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posted March 02, 2001 04:15 AM

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Yeah, I have a friend who was on omna at 250 per week and noticed nothing anywhere. NOt even ball shrinkage after 6 weeks. So we upped him to 500 /week. Hopefully that does something. Becuase all he's done up to now is lost a little weight.


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corndawg

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posted March 02, 2001 08:57 AM

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Bump for TGIF!!!!


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