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Fener

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posted March 01, 2001 06:16 PM

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today i tried to up the dosage of my eca stack. i took 100mgs of ephedrine,1g of caffeine and 1.3g of aspirin divided in four doses.too much! i have irregular heart beat, and my bp went up to 190 (i usually have 65-110).i took some tenormin (atenol) wich is a betablocker. it's starting to get better. my question is: anyone else did this? for how long will the betaB stay in my sistem?

p.s.
i'll never go over 75mg/day of ephedrine again


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b fold the truth

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posted March 01, 2001 06:27 PM

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If you do not take tenormin on a regular basis...or any other beta blocker...you do not need to be taking it at all. Just my opinion. It takes a while for them to get out of your system.

Why would you take that much eca anyway???

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Fener

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posted March 01, 2001 06:49 PM

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what do you mean a while? 1day? 3days? 1week?


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Badkins21

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posted March 01, 2001 07:22 PM

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I've never gone over 50-400-325...then 1/2 that 6-8 hours later...I agree that 75 mg of ephedrine is the max dosage you should use in a 24 hour period!

As far as the beta-blockers, I have no idea...

Be wise people, more is NOT always better!!

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Tall Dude

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posted March 01, 2001 07:24 PM

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The effects of the beta blocker should be gone within a day. Tenorman is not especially long acting, so it might even be shorter.


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macrophage69alpha

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posted March 01, 2001 07:39 PM

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all a matter of tolerance-
WHICH VARIES CONSIDERABLY

"twin" has taken
10-15 clen
6 ephedrine
6 200mg caffiene
between 40-80mg yohimbine- snorted, topical, sublingual

all in one day- for a couple of weeks at a time

however, in some individuals
25mg eph and 200mg caffiene
may provide too much cns stimulation

or just 4 clen a day.

it is not a matter of toughness, it is related to normal levels of neurotransmitters, # and sensitivity of beta and alpha adrenoreceptors, as well as auxillary degradation. ie- reuptake and oxidation, plus liver degradation of drug and its metabolites- BODY becomes very efficient at breaking down caffiene- quite rapidly by upregulation of production of enzymes.

peace


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Fener

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posted March 02, 2001 01:42 AM

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thanks guys, now i feel much better. the beta blocker worked within 1 hour and i hope it will be gone tomorrow becouse i have to start taking eca again. i think everybody who uses clen or eca and trys to "push" them a little should have half a tab of tenormin on hand. it is very effective, and it can save you from a LONG night.


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scott825

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posted March 02, 2001 02:03 AM

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Can you get Tenormin at any drug store?
That sounds like something I need to have
around just incase I go overboard.

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Mass Monster

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posted March 02, 2001 02:06 AM

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Good luck bro, and be safe! Try to stay in the game for a while

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yarpic

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posted March 02, 2001 06:24 PM

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Can't we just use the more available melatonin to relax after a too big ECA dose?


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Tall Dude

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posted March 03, 2001 10:58 AM

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Ternomin is a beta-blocker used for treating high blood pressure through a few different mechanisms including slowing the intensity and frequency of heartbeats. All beta blockers are prescription only.

It's possible that you could try melatonin to mellow out a bit, but beta blockers have a much more powerful effect.


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