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Purple

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posted March 01, 2001 09:18 AM

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Hi all, I am new to the board so please bear with me. I am looking for advice about a cycle I am on at the moment. I am 25 weigh around 117Kg's at 6'2.
500mg Sust/week
200mg Prima depot
200mg Test Cypionate
200mg Nandrolone Cypionate
30mg D/Bol per day

I have also been using 4iu's Genotropin every 2nd day with 6iu's insulin 3x per day for the last 6 weeks but have now stopped with the GH and insulin.

Any comments / advice


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strengthmonster

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posted March 01, 2001 09:24 AM

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Nice stack. My only concern would be the insulin 3X a day. Have you got humalog - the very fast acting or humalin R - fast acting. Anything longer could cause insulin resistance.

How many weeks in total?

Oh, and what is Nandrolone cypionate, is it a faster deca or deca & test? Excuse my ignorance but I havn't heard of it.


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Purple

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posted March 01, 2001 09:33 AM

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Thanks for the response.
The cycle is for 12 weeks and I am in my 6th week with extremly good gains (10 kgs) over the last five weeks.

The insulin is actrapid, a very fast acting insulin. You can feel it within 1hour if you have not had enough carbs. The reaon 3x a day is that it seems to keep your muscle bellies full. You definitely feel "fuller"

The Nadrolone cypionate is made by Jurox and is called Dynabol50. This is excellent stuff and promotes good gains with very little water retention. It is highly anabolic and low in androgens, but rumor has it that it is to be discontinued.

Do you think I should increase the test cypionate to 400mg per week?


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Purple

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posted March 01, 2001 09:42 AM

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sorry can seem to log my reply properly


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strengthmonster

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posted March 01, 2001 09:49 AM

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Nah, I'd keep it at what it is. You've still got another 500mg test from the sus. I find my gains will start to slow after 6 weeks once you have put on your immediate water weight, so although your gains may be slowing it will be more LBM that you are putting on. It is always better to do your max dosage from the start when your receptors are fresh so if you wanna go higher I'd wait until you do your next course.

Actrapid is similar to humilin R by Lilly I think so it is not quite as fast as humalog. Peak time on humalin R is also about an hour although it can be up to 2 1/2, whereas humalog (also by Lilly) is 1/2 hour. I have used it twice a day, on waking before breakfast and post workout. Quite a lot of guys have developed insulin resistance and gone on to become type II Diabetics from it so be careful bro. You sound like you know what you are doing though. Remember the insulin is to help with the transfer of nutrients to the muscle, not to make it fuller.

Hope you've got your auxillaries as well ie. Clomid/HCG/Nolvadex etc. I've not used GH yet but I'm planning to give it a go soon myself. It's supposed to be the bomb when stacked with gear and slin.


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Purple

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posted March 02, 2001 08:12 AM

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Thanks for the response.
Good to get a decent opinion they seem to be hard to come by these days.
I have the benefit of being able to get some sound advice from a seasoned vet. This guy has been there and done it all.

He is F@#*ing massive. 5'4 at 108Kg and benches like a possessed man


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ORGANON CANON

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posted March 02, 2001 08:18 AM

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The only thing I see wrong is the low dose of primo. It really won't do anything at 200mg a week, maybe you should save it and bridge with it, or just use it at the end of the cycle to preserve all of the gains.


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Purple

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posted March 02, 2001 08:32 AM

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What dose of prima would you use?
I thought of increasing to 300mg/wk but thought that due to my gains it would be a waste until they slow down.

Don't like to bridge I normaly take at least 6-8 wks off, but I do loose some size, normaly around 2Kg's if I keep up my eating and training, other wise it has been as bad as 5 Kg's before, when I lost the fire in my heart to train without the gear.


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The_Iron_Game

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Organon how many cycles have you done before and how many of them were with primo at 200mgs/wk?

If you are stacking everything else then 200mgs should be sufficient, 200mgs is better than nothing and can only further increase protein synthesis. As Strength Monster said gains tend to slow down towards the end, 8-10 week cycle would IMO have been more beneficial.

Cycle looks well planned.

Peace


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ORGANON CANON

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I am just finishing my 7 cycle, soon be starting my number 8. I have never used primo alone if that is whay you meant, but I have put in in at 200mg a week. I changed it, from and 8 week to a 12 week cycle and just did primo at the end at 400mg and I kept every pound of my gains. This was just my opinion.

BTW- I still only use 400mg a week of primo, and it is a great roid!


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Purple

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What do you think of the "off" period of 6-8 weeks do you think it is too long or adequate enough to let my levels return to normal.

I usualy go for a liver test after the 6th week just to see if all is ok. No problems so far in the past, just slightly elevated cholestrol levels once.


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