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wHeLiXw

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posted February 28, 2001 07:25 PM

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I want to know the ins and outs of successful synthol usage. Can all body parts be used? Amounts to start with? Any different injection technique? Where to get the best deal on some???


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leewannabe

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The newest interest in the bodybuilding drug community is Synthoid. It is better known here in America as "Pump 'n Pose". I will try and give the clearest description on its contents, use and abuse that I can. Once again, we cannot rely on the snobby assed "gurus" from the muscle mags. They are giving it a bad rap and telling you of all the dangers of Synthoid use and they downplay the benefits.

I took the liberty in calling GenaPharm who is the only company in which you can order legit Pump n' Pose from here in the states.

The president of GenaPharm, Haddi Ghandour was very gracious in spending a lot of time with me and answering my many questions. So here are the facts on Synthoid/Pump 'n Pose.

If one was to purchase the legit product overseas, there product label would look like this:

SYNTHOL 877/3

Synthetic Size Booster


(translated from the German)

Ingredients:

Synthetic Intramuscular Fatty Acids........85%

Lidocaine Hydrocloride...........................7.5%

Benzyl Alcohol......................................7.5%

Shake before using

Store in a cool and dry place

Protect from direct sunlight


X3 Specialty Labs

Hamburg / Germany


Contained in a brown glass, multi-use vial is approximately 100cc of the oil. The oil is clear, light textured and has a distinctive benzyl alcohol smell. If you see a 50cc version, IT IS FAKE!! Also, any vial that are manufactured in Europe, will have a gold colored metal cap. The American or any fakes are silver colored. Both Synthol and Pump 'n Pose will have gold caps.

To import this product legally in the U.S., X3 Specialty Labs created another bottle. This does not have a label. But again, a multi-use, brown colored vial is used. Also, it will contain 100cc of the oil. It has white lettering burned in the glass. The letters will not rub off with a fingernail. They read like this:

Pump 'n Pose

Posing Ol

Nur zur auBeren Anwendung

GleichmaBig auf dem Korper

verteilen.

Kuhl und trocken lagern

Responsible bodybuilders use Synthol to add size to small bellied muscles such as the biceps, triceps, deltoids, and calves. A lot of older steroid users used to use Esiclene. Esiclene would add a half inch to any bodypart it was injected in. Esiclene caused an inflammation of the muscle thus causing it to swell. This was only temporary and the inflammation would go away after a couple of days. What Synthol can do is add up to 2 inches to a body part. And if used correctly, the results can stay up to at least six months.

How does Synthol actually work?

Well when Synthol is injected in the body, the oil is supposed to be resistant to mobilization. Once this happens, collegen is formed around the bubble of oil and it encapsulates. The encapusulated collegen keeps the bubble of oil in place thus pushes up the muscle to make it appear bigger from the outside. Some have written that it is the oil that encapsulates. It is not, it is the collegen from your body.

Dan Duchaine seems to be the only guru that has paid some attention to Synthol. He had a sample tested using the HPLC method and this is what he says Synthol is made of:

C8 (caproic acid) 45.3%

C10 (caprylic acid) 43.4%

C18:2 (linoleic acid) 6.2%

Others 5.1%

He estimates that the "Other" fatty acid is C12. Basically it shows as Medium Chain Triglyceride, mostly C8 and C10. Keep in mind that whe a HPLC lab test is perfomed on a solution, it should show up as a food like substance. So that is why it may be coming up MCT oil. Dan believes strongly that this is MCT oil because of a producer of MCT's in Germany is a company called Dynament Nobel. GenaPharm claims that the oil is not MCT but a synthetic fat. The one common thing that all vials of Synthol has is a white powdery sediment on the bottom. This may be the lidocaine hydrocloride.

Synthol has actually been in existance for a little over 3 years. Some of your famous bodybuilders are using it. One that is very blatent is the Canadian Collossus - Greg Kovacs. Earlier this year, at the Night of Champions, Kovacs has misused the Synthol and injected way too much in his rear delts. If you can see pics, take a look and you will see what I mean. There was rumours that Flex Wheeler has used it in his calves. He has been accused of using implants or other help. I have heard from a reliable source that he does use Synthol in his calves.

So the consensus is that when a bodybuilder is using Synthol, he is deemed as a "cheater". Usually the people screaming these accusations are on more steroids than I am. So as the old saying goes, "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". Women get breast implants all the time, I never look at them and say "she's cheating!" So you have to make up your own minds.

When talking to Haddi, I asked how does one use Synthol correctly? This is what I was told. You wont get instructions with the Synthol, and most of the advice that goes around your local gyms is usually ignorant advice from individuals that dont want to sound stupid. I got this advice on how to use this correctly straight from the distributor.

Since most people have trouble peaking their biceps, this is the most common bodypart that Synthol is injected into. Here are the steps.

Materials you need.

Isopropyl Alcohol

Cotton balls

Injection Needle 1 - 1/2 in. 22-26 guage, at least a 1cc syringe

Flair felt tip pen or equivalent

Pump 'n Pose

Preferably a trusted friend and a full length mirror.

Small Band aids

1. In front of the mirror, perform a single bicep pose. You have to determine where the bicep will peak. Once you have found that area, using your free arm and hand. Use the Flair felt tip and make a mark on top of your bicep. This mark will be the insertion point for the injection.

2. Do the same for the other bicep.

3. Once both biceps are marked with the ideal spot for you peak. Shake the bottle of Pump 'n Pose up thoroughly and fill your syringe up with 2 ccs of Pump 'n Pose oil.

4. Using correct hygiene, swab the area for injection with a alcohol soaked cotton ball.

5. Relax you bicep and point the needle in on a 90 degree angle. Insert the needle through the subcaneous layer and push gently and steadily through the muscle. You must get deep into the bicep (basically under the muscle belly) Once you have the desired depth, pull the stopper up slightly to see if the syringe fills with blood. THIS IS IMPORTANT! If it does pull out and try another spot. If it doesnt, then slowly push the stopper until only 1cc is injected under the muscle belly.

6. Do the same for the other bicep.

7. After injection, reswab the injection site with an alcohol soaked cottonball. Massage the area very lightly. Do not put too much pressure. For best results try not to massage at all.

8. Use bandaids to cover injection wounds if necessary.

You are done the injections. After a half hour after the injections, take a light weight dumbell, or barbell and use a weight that will allow you to do 12 -15 reps. Make the reps slow, remembering to squeeze the heads of the biceps after each lift. Remember to keep the weight light. We are only trying to get a good pump.

Repeat this every other day until you get the results you are wanting. Once you have the results you want, then an injection once a month will keep your size for you.

Hints:

1. Do not inject more than 1cc at a time! Injecting more than 1cc will not get you faster quality results. Usually the results are odd looking shapes from your muscles.

2. Since injecting into the bicep can be painful, try using a smaller guage needles if you can. The oil is harder to force out of some, but it wont leave a big hole in your arm.

3. The initial injection is painful, use an ice pack for about 10 -15 minutes to try and numb the pain. It is effective in masking the pain. The day after is when you will feel the bigger pain. It is because of the acids in the oil. It is not unbearable. Use asperin if needed.

4. Try to use a trusted friend, wife, girlfriend, nurse or doctor to help you if at all possible


****Synthol Select**** www.geocities.com/flexmob


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mike001

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posted February 28, 2001 08:22 PM

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great post. i am just too lazy to read ALL of it though hehe

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wHeLiXw

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posted March 01, 2001 01:31 AM

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Great info ...thanx bro!

wHeLiXw


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MeanOne

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posted March 01, 2001 02:21 AM

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I agree with everything but the dosage. I'm soon to be using 5cc per site every 3 days...no weird lumps or shapes. However, initial dosages should not exceed 1cc, and should slowly be worked up. I use 25g pins, although with some force, you might be able to get away with smaller ones.


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wHeLiXw

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posted March 01, 2001 02:25 AM

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What has caused the lumps in some users? Why all the bad hype in the mags?

wHeLiXw


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wHeLiXw

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posted March 01, 2001 02:27 AM

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Mean one what sites are you injecting into?

wHeLiXw


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ikedaddy77

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posted March 01, 2001 02:30 AM

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great post leewannabee, it is the best synthol post that i have ever read.

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wHeLiXw

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posted March 01, 2001 02:34 AM

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Anyone tried this in their traps?


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posted March 01, 2001 02:57 AM

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Bi's, Tri's, Delts, Calves, and Lats during the summer months.


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wHeLiXw

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posted March 01, 2001 10:42 AM

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bump


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wHeLiXw

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posted March 01, 2001 02:52 PM

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anymore experiences?


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leewannabe

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posted March 01, 2001 05:16 PM

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For first time users dont start out with more then 1cc

[This message has been edited by leewannabe (edited March 01, 2001).]


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The Canadian Oak

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posted March 01, 2001 06:31 PM

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i figured that it was perminent once u did it,u say it isnt,if not where does the oil go

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leewannabe

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posted March 01, 2001 06:37 PM

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Your body brakes down the oil after a long period of time. from 6 months up to 2 years.


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The Canadian Oak

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posted March 01, 2001 06:43 PM

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im really considering this,and since its a 100ml bottle thats 100cc's right

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"Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity."

"In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird, and people take prozac to make it normal."

"Its not when you die its how you live"

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leewannabe

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posted March 01, 2001 07:11 PM

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yes.


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The Canadian Oak

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posted March 01, 2001 07:14 PM

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i knwo im full of questions but i want to do this right,i have been told to inject every 4 days is this correct

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"Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity."

"In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird, and people take prozac to make it normal."

"Its not when you die its how you live"

http://pub33.ezboard.com/bburnboy check this board out its just gettin started


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wHeLiXw

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posted March 01, 2001 07:41 PM

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Does Panda still sell his version...I emailed him a few days ago, with no reply as of yet.

wHeLiXw


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The Canadian Oak

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posted March 01, 2001 10:24 PM

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hey bro do u mean [email protected]?,i havent got a response back either and he was who i was going to order from

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"Its not when you die its how you live"

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wHeLiXw

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posted March 02, 2001 12:31 PM

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yeah does anone know if he is still around or have a different addy?


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posted March 02, 2001 01:16 PM

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its still getpandp@yahoo


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Has anybody used Synthol on larger muscles like Glutes and Quads ??

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I got a response from GetPandP just 2 days ago. He is still up and running.
As for a cycle of site injections, I would say pick up Paul Borresen's Site Location booklet or The Stack. I would reprint the info here but copywrite infringement is not my thing, especially as he was a friend of mine. As always, feel free to mail me also. Just don't disclose any crazy secrets about yourself. I only have Hotmail.


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i would like to know if any of you guys have used it for pecs and how did it work out and did any bumps form?
peace and stay large


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