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  Can 30lb lbm be gained on this stack? give me your opinion.

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GLP

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posted February 27, 2001 11:26 PM

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1000mg test week 1-8
60mg dbal tappering down week 1-7
10iu insulin post workout
25mg t3 week 1-6
Calories will be very high but clean
Going to shoot for 400mg protine a day
done about 4 cycles last one was a gram of test a week for 8 weeks


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Spunky

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posted February 27, 2001 11:28 PM

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LEAN body mass... i doubt it.. it would be awful hard to gain 30lbs of solid muscle on 1 cycle.. but u could come close.. 30lbs of mass yes. 30lbs of LBM, i doubt it.


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beefmaster

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posted February 27, 2001 11:33 PM

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I'm only a 2 cycle vet but I think you should add something to help keep the gains of the test & dbol like running primo,eq or winny for a month starting around week 6. If you do that I think 30lbs could happen, damn close anyway, my first was 21lbs.


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GLP

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posted February 27, 2001 11:37 PM

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last cycle ran anti estrogens the whole time and mad clomid at the end and did not lose hardly any gains but mabey your right about the Eq. only thing is it is expensive to get.


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beefmaster

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posted February 27, 2001 11:49 PM

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EQ is cheap! the 50mg/ml stuff can be had for $80 for 50ml & thats 400mg for 6 weeks. I can't get sust that cheap.


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DSPO

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posted February 28, 2001 12:21 AM

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No


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panerai

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posted February 28, 2001 12:50 AM

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no


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Daeo

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posted February 28, 2001 11:28 AM

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I'd say no also. Unless you have really good genetics and it's your first cycle. Even then 30lb of lbm is alot to gain...

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-Falcon-

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posted February 28, 2001 11:47 AM

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no way bro.....too much water retention that makes up most of that weight. LOke veryone said before, 30 of mass sure....LBM nope!!
Eq, Primo or winny will help but will take a bit longer. good luck

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panerai

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posted February 28, 2001 12:17 PM

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Mass cycle by Dave Palumbo!
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Question: I was wondering if you could recommend a cycle for me. My goal is to put on the most mass possible with this cycle. I have done 2 cycles in the past. My first lasted 8 weeks and was deca-200mg and primo-100mg every four days, and sustenon 250-1 shot per week. My second cycle was a cutting cycle. I was on it for 12 weeks. It was Winsrtol depot 50mg EOD and sust 250 1 shot per week. I am currently 190lbs. 5'10" and aprox 5% bodyfat. My goal is 225lb. Is this possible with one cycle? I know that some of the weight would be water but I am wanting to be 225 cut! Is this too much to ask? Thanks for the help.
ANSWER: Is it possible to gain 35 pounds of solid muscle in one cycle? The answer to that question is, "If the cycle is long enough, SURE!" First of all, to attain the level of lean muscle gains that you are looking for, you will need to stick with the bulking compounds Testosterone, Deca Durabolin, Dianabol, and Equipoise. I recommend taking 1000mg of some kind of Test per week together with 400 mg of Deca for 8 weeks, followed by 1000mg of another Testosterone compound per week together with 5 Dianabol per day for another 8 weeks, and finishing up with 1000mg of yet another Test per week together with 300mg of EQ per week for the last 8 weeks
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susthead

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posted February 28, 2001 12:22 PM

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YOU WILL ONLY GAIN 10 -12 POUNDS OF MUSCLE A YEAR EVEN ON GEAR AND A LOT OF GEAR IT TAKES TIME I GRANT YOU THAT YOU WILL GAIN MORE THAN 12 POUNDS A YEAR BUT YOUR WEIGHT WILL BE UP AND DOWN BECAUSE OF HIGH WATER RETENTION 10-12 POUNDS QUALITY A YEAR IS GOOD AND IM NOT TELLING YOU LIES M8


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panerai

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posted February 28, 2001 12:30 PM

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Well,it's not quiet true.If one use high enough doses of gear,stay,practically all year round,use insulin properly,he can end up year with 30-40lbs. added lean muscles.Many pros,and top amateurs are good example.And,it's harder for them to gain at the point were they are,because they are a way above genetical potential already.


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GLP

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posted February 28, 2001 04:04 PM

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Thanks for the replys. You guys are right 30lb is far fetched. Will add finn at 75mg eod and shoot for 20lb lbm I think that would be a good goal. By the way have seen my buddy who is a genetic freak gain 30lb on 600mg test a week and that was like his 15th cycle no shit. sure it was not lbm but some freaky shit can happen with gear and the right people. But my genetics are not that great so fuck!


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Stew Meat

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posted February 28, 2001 04:04 PM

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I'd drop the T3 and add EQ then run a cutting cycle next.

Your dossages are WAY to high for a novice.

-Stew


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MeanOne

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posted February 28, 2001 04:29 PM

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Add Eq, like everyone said, expect LBM gains of 17-22lbs realistically over 8 weeks, with water, maybe you'll hit 30. It really depends on the person.

If you after just weight, pure and simple my favorate "Water Stack" is-
Suspension, Anadrol, Eq, Fina
If you are after LBM gains go with something more like-
Propinate, or Cyponiate - Winstrol - Eq- Primo - Fina


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Mikey

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posted February 28, 2001 04:54 PM

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Nope, 15 lbs maybe.


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Olympian

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posted February 28, 2001 05:02 PM

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i dont ever gain more than 10


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DREXX

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posted March 01, 2001 07:04 PM

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In someone that really know what they are doing this could add 20lbs of LBM in 8 weeks.

I know for me it would

How much did you gain on 1000mg per week of test for 8 weeks it would give us a better idea of what is acheivable for you.

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