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santo smith

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posted February 27, 2001 04:55 PM

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i am on a cutting cycle right know :
fina 80mg eod
winny 50mg ed
t-50 100mg eod
clen and t-3 also
if will be my four week this friday!
every thing is going sweet but the damm t-50 is putting on some water in the gut i would like to get rid of it, i am drinking a ton of water like almost 2 gallons.
some what do you guys think i should do, got both in stock, he he he
but never had to use any because i am not sensitive to test at about 400mg a week,
one more thing i am 5'10 188 about 12%bf


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lawnsaver

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posted February 27, 2001 05:45 PM

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20mg of nolva with 25mg of proviron should do the trick!

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The_Iron_Game

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posted February 27, 2001 05:47 PM

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Personally I would go with 20 / 50 if you are so concerned about the water if it is not one of the biggest deals then as Lawn said


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santo smith

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posted February 27, 2001 06:30 PM

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know should i do this for like two days? and then if it comes back start up again?
thanks for the help


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santo smith

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posted February 27, 2001 07:59 PM

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bump


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The_Iron_Game

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posted February 28, 2001 04:52 AM

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Nope it wont do jack in 2 days. Do it for 3 weeks and then stop if you are pleased with the results. If not go longer.

Peace


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body72

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posted February 28, 2001 05:12 AM

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20 mg nolvadex and 50 mg proviron works well


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santo smith

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posted February 28, 2001 03:09 PM

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thanks guys
i will try 20/25 for a few weeks and see what happens
next time i think i will go for the armidix
that is the best in my eyes even though i have never tried it.


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naprox

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posted February 28, 2001 03:18 PM

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I never retained much while using prop. Keep your diet clean and watch the sodium intake especially. You can also take aldactone or other mild diuretic. Aldactone is prescribed for women who get bloated during their period so it is pretty safe and mild as long as you don't pop 10 pills a day or something.


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santo smith

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posted February 28, 2001 03:23 PM

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thanks my supplier got that stuff cheap


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lawnsaver

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I didnt realize there was a time frame. 40mg of nolva ed for the 1st week with the proviron at 50mg will work much faster.

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The_Iron_Game

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There is no such time fram if you are referring to my 3 week reply. However 2 days on them at whatever dose will not cause that water to go. There is also little point in running it for a week and then stop and it will return! 3 wks on and see where you go from there was my point.


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Big'N Heavy

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posted February 28, 2001 04:35 PM

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Hey Iron game do u think using eod over an extended time will do the same

Big


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lawnsaver

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quote:
Originally posted by The_Iron_Game:
There is no such time fram if you are referring to my 3 week reply. However 2 days on them at whatever dose will not cause that water to go. There is also little point in running it for a week and then stop and it will return! 3 wks on and see where you go from there was my point.

I didnt mean stop after a week. I meant take that dose for the 1st week and then go back to the other. The higher doses will get it under control faster.

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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 01, 2001 05:41 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by lawnsaver:
The higher doses will get it under control faster.


True that, but also possibly reduce estrogen levels too much which can be unfavourable as I am sure you know estrogen plays a role in the production of growth hormone and IGF-1.

If he is not going to lose sleep over reducing the water over a longer period of time slower and lower doses would be more beneficial than higher doses. Santo if you are that worried about the water retention then try a diuretic which should see you well in 2-3 days and then hit the nolva proviron at lower doses. Too much nolva will have that rebound effect and Im sure you know the importance of estrogen after all these posts lately.

Peace

Big N Heavy it all depends on the reason for using them. Of course if you notice the onset of gyno then 40mgs nolva 50mgs proviron should be utilised for one week and then re-evaluate the situation when the week is up. If water retention and high bp are of your main concern then different scheduling methods should be used.

[This message has been edited by The_Iron_Game (edited March 01, 2001).]


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