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Mentor

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posted February 27, 2001 02:49 PM

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Hello

I�m on a cycle with deca and omna

Deca -400mg/ week
Omna -500mg/ week

Then I take 10 or 20mg of Nolvadex everyday.
I have been on for about 2 weeks now.
When do the serious gains come??
The cycle is 10 weeks with omna and 8 weeks with deca


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Geared

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posted February 27, 2001 02:53 PM

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Be sure to take in about 3500 to 6000 calories a day and get at least eight hours of sleep a night! Nutrition and rest is the biggest part of gaining size!


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FUZZDOG

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posted February 27, 2001 02:54 PM

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Why r u on the nolva?


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Thick dog

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posted February 27, 2001 02:54 PM

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Those two drugs usually kick in around the 3rd week or so, be patient. The propionate in the omna is the only thing that would be really active yet, and there is not a whole lot of that.


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Mentor

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posted February 27, 2001 02:56 PM

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I take the nolva to bee sure that I dont get any problems with gyno... just to be sure


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FUZZDOG

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posted February 27, 2001 02:57 PM

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The nolva will hinder your gains somewhat. People disagree on why and how much, but it is my take on it that nolva keeps the bloat down. This sounds good but the "bloat" helps your strength a lot...you really only need it if your nipples start itching or if your predisposed to it...don't forget lots of protien. fuzz

[This message has been edited by FUZZDOG (edited February 27, 2001).]


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Slopain

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posted February 27, 2001 02:58 PM

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how many calories do you eat?
how many cycles have you done? at what doses?
how much do you weigh now? how much have you gained so far?
how is strength?

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eudemonia

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posted February 27, 2001 02:59 PM

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Assuming your training and diet are in order, you will normally notice gains from 3-4 weeks onwards. (This of course varies with the individual)
And stick with the 10mg Nolvadex daily as well - better safe than sorry.


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ironbarbarian

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posted February 27, 2001 03:01 PM

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just wait till week 4-5 youll will feel good....


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Mentor

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posted February 27, 2001 03:04 PM

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183cm - 100,8kg
Second cycle
gains - 2,0kg sofar
strenght - no diff. yet


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Slopain

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posted February 27, 2001 03:08 PM

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these metrics kill me, what was your first cycle? and if anyone wants to hop over to conversion.com or whatever site converts that would be nice. Your up 2kg which might just be from the diet I assume, what kind of gear are you using?


and stay on the nolva its cheap insurace,

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Badkins21

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posted February 27, 2001 03:10 PM

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I agree with ol' f-dog on the nolvadex issue, I really think you should only use that at the onset of gyno (unless on a cutting cycle)...

Both types of gear you are using are long acting--you should know this from all the time you spent researching and putting this cycle together--so look forward to some crazy gains starting around weeks 3-5...

HAPPY GROWING!

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