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 Should i bridge or just take some time off?
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1008 |
Well, i have been reading all the post on bridging, taking time off, etc. Everybody has their own opinions, and i would like yours regarding my situation. Here goes. First, this past October-December, i was on a bulk cycle of Test, Dbol, EQ. I took 2 weeks off, and got right back on Test, Deca, Winny. (stopped the deca in week 5 because of gyno problems). I have about 3 more weeks of this cycle im doing right now. Here is my question: Should i take off for about 5 weeks, and take nothing, or should i bridge with primo? I want to start a cutting cycle on May 1st with Test, EQ, Winny, Fina, & Clen, and it will last 10 weeks. Then i will bridge for 3 weeks with Primo, and get back on for 8 more weeks with similiar AAS. So, my main concern is the 5 weeks from the middle of March till i start back on May 1st. Anybody got suggestions? Stop for 5 weeks OR bridge with Primo for 5 weeks? ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected]     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 756 |
Bridge with 200mg primo, 20mg anavar | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1008 |
So you think it would be alright to do this? I mean, the only thing that concerned me the most is that from October through this September, i will have only had 2 weeks total offtime! I guess im a year rounder and didn't even know it.  ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 95 |
My suggestion would be to take the 5 weeks off clean up your system. Train heavy every week. Eat plenty of clean foods and supplement with glutmine (sp. When you come off that long cycle you will still have A.S. in your system for a few weeks. Take your clomid for several weeks also. I took most of the summer off (4 months) last year and didn't lose shit. 5 weeks should not hurt you one bit. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 12 |
In my opinion, cycling is the way to go - if you cant retain the vast majority of your gains while "off" then you need to seriously re-evaluate what you doing. Taking ANY sort of anabolic compound in between cycles, even the low androgen stuff like primo, is not allowing your system the recovery time it need to continue working at optimum levels. You can however, "bridge" with certain non-anabolic compounds if you feel the need to do so. Clenbuterol is an excellent choice as not only does it exert an anti-catabolic effect upon the body, its thermogenic effect assists in clearing the receptors by raising the metabolism. Insulin as well is excellent for retaining mass between cycles. I took a break of 8 weeks using only Clenbuterol, didn't lose a pound, and my strength dropped very slighty. Most people miss the single most important factor in all this and that is diet - dropping your calories after a cycle is bullshit! Why drop calories when you're already in a catabolic state? If you re-establish your body's own test levels (with Clomid) eat right, train smart and get enough sleep you wont suffer any significant loss of size or strength. Good Luck | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1340 |
bridging with primo at 30-400 a week will not shut your self test production and will be very good idea | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 114 |
I`m going to take this apportunity and post my question here since we`re on the subject... ok i just finished a deca/sust cycle and i`m planning my next cycle which will be Dbol-sust-EQ-fina...this will be a 12 weeks cycle....and if i start on may 1st this cycle should be finished on july 20th...i would like to bridge til the rest of summer...so how do i go about doing it so? and what should i use? i feel that i dont need to do a cutting cycle cuz i`m slim 5`11 170 pounds my bf is about 6-7%.... thanks in advance, G.C.C. | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 6 |
Here is my little opinion on the matter. This is only your second cycle and I would not recommend anyone look into bridging until they have about 5 cycles under their belt. The first 3 should be time on = time off but remember this is just my opinion. Give your body a break from the steroids. If you are worried about loosing much of the new gained muscle then dont. There are other tools that can aid you in retaining most of the gains minus the water retention. Take a good 5 - 6 weeks off and allow your body to adapt to the new changes without placing further stress on it. 200-300mgs of primo / wk is not that much that you should have to worry about test levels while on it. Use the clomid at the end of the cycle and your HPTA will be restored. So if this is your worry then let it not be. Clenbuterol is a great medicine to use once your cycle is coming to an end. It will help increase focus, increase thermogenesis and help via its anti-catabolism pathway. Ok now if you can get creatine and glutamine and take 10 grams of creatine / day and 20 grams of glutamine / day. Problems with combining all the supplements needed will cause a shift in electrolyte balance so multi vit mineral and such supplementation should be used. At the end of your cycle you should strive for full endogenous testosterone production and to restore the HPTA. If you do decide to bridge then use something that will not supress natural test levels (anavar is perfect) Nolvadex 20mgs/ day for 3 weeks in addition to proviron at 50mgs/ day for 3 weeks. You can use T3 at 25mcgs / day to help keep protein synthesis increased via different pathway than that of steroids. Just my opinion bro | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1008 |
Well, thanks for the replys. I see that the vets here are saying to bridge, but you other guys have some good points. I may just tough it out, and let my body take a rest for the 5 weeks. And the Clen bridging sounds like a good idea. I will up my calories a bit, take Glutamine as well as Creatine too. I don't really think i will lose as much as im thinking....i think its all in my head. And yeah, 5 weeks really isn't that long. One more question: While im taking Aratest now, with IP's winny tabs, im wondering how long should i wait before i start Clomid therapy? This has been asked many times, and i know Huck has the answer. Lets see, Aratest is Prop/Enanthate, so it is totally out within 2 weeks right? And winny? Im not too sure on that. I need to research and find out. ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2043 |
I dont know how any vet could recommend bridging for you when this is only your second cycle! As for the clomid 10 days after last shot of aratest. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1008 |
Iron Game, i say my 2nd cycle, because i knew nothing about AAS when i first started taking it. I have done 2 sustanon cycles, at only 250mg per week for 8 weeks. This was about a year ago. I dont call this a cycle, so thats why i didnt add it into this mix. So, i did a Aratest/Dbol/EQ cycle from Oct-Dec 2000, and now im finishing up a Aratest/Winny cycle. No, i dont have 5-10 cycles underneath my belt, but i know what im doing when i do it, and i dont do anything without researching it first. That is why i am asking you guys opinions on this.  So if you, being a good friend, say that you wouldn't recommend this bridging, then i will take your word for it, and take the 5 weeks off to rest my body. ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 243 |
hi, ive been on since june of 2000. heres what ive done: 500 mg sostenon for 4 weeks. ive done this so far and have made OUTSTANDING gains. the dosages are not very high, but enable me to keep my testicles working, and allows me to train more frequently. so basically, the increased recuperative abilitiy and the increased frequency of training allows me to train twice as much as if i were natural. so basically im making gains in 6 months that would normally take me 12-15 months naturally. im VERY happy with the results. -Pops | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1557 |
hey hardcore. I have totally stopped and am even resting my body for another few weeks. first off I feel greta and look great still.i have not crashed what so ever but i was on for a long long time. fact of the mattter is my friends think i am on as i am big and cut. i am eating maybe 3 meals a day soemtimes 2. as mentioned i have not touched a weight in almost a month and have been off even longer. i can't explain what is happening other than my body was so shut down for the time i was on and now its over producing its own test levels to make up the dufference from when i was on/ most pros take months off after a big show and or hard drug use. it lets your body rest and amkes you feel relaxed and in a while driven to get back in there. yes, i can't wait until i get back in the gym but right now the rest feels so good and my body looks great. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1008 |
Thanks for that reply Flexed. I will just tough it out for the 5 weeks in between cycles, and see what happens, but i will keep the calories up, cardio way down, and training to 4 days a week. I don't think i will lose much, if not anything at all. Clomid for a few weeks and i should be ready to rock and roll come May 1st. ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 431 |
Take the time off.Ideally 8 weeks would be better than 5,but if you want to go five,go five.No harm done. I would take 2 weeks off,then start clomid @ 600 mgs.,day one,and use it @ 100 mgs./day until you start the next cycle. I'm going on my 7th week off my last cycle,and people keep telling me how well I have held my size.They can't tell a difference. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1008 |
Well, BigHurt, i may try to make it about 6 weeks if i can, depending on how i plan everything out for this summer. And i hope i have as much luck as you and Flexed, and hold my size. I am a dedicated person, so there is no way im going to let my size go away. Hell, its only 5 fucking weeks, but im sure it will feel like an eternity, since i wont be "on" anymore. Just that much more to look forward to when i do get back on. ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] |
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posted February 27, 2001 01:51 PM