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Novice 
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whats up bros this is my first time on this board seems like everyone is cool. so heres a question for you all. I starting a sus250 and deca cycle, how important is it to have clomid in there? jason     | ||
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Freak 
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On a scale of 1 - 5. I would say 6 | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1340 |
it will help you restore your HPTA thou help you keep your gains | ||
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Novice
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I have seen cyles of clomid before but how would I cycle it in to mine. I weigh around 168-170. | ||
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Freak
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What amount of sust and deca are you using. Are you worried about water retention? Do you have an anti estrogen on hand? Use the clomid post cycle, 16-21 days after last sust injection or 10 days after last deca injection which ever runs longer. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 137 |
Use the clomid or you will lose all your gains, since your natural test will be shut down and won't come back up by itself until long after your gains are gone from all the extra estrogen in your system. Run it for 1 week at 100mg/ day, then 2 weeks at 50mg/day. I am coming to the end of my first cycle and the most important thing I can think of doing is taking my clomid. ------------------ | ||
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Novice
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I am taking 200mg of deca and sus250 once a week for 10 weeks. and lots of lifting... and no I dont have any anti estrogen, and really dont care about water retention, should I though? well what do you recommend I buy or do? jason | ||
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Mutant  
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I'd recommend getting enough clomid to use 100mg a day for on eweek then 50mg a day the next week and start it about 2 weeks after you take your last shot. I'd also recommend doubling your dosages of both test and deca as well... | ||
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Cool Novice 
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You SHOULD care about water retention as it's not just a matter of looking bloaty, there are health implication involved as well. Who devised your cycle BTW? You should double your dosages of both test and deca. Believe it or believe it not the ill effects from 1000mg per week of total steriod, aren't much different from 500mg. In this rare exception, more, is in fact better. Anyway, if you have easy access to Clomid i would use it as an anti-estrogen throughout your cycle at 50mg EOD. Then as the other guys suggested 100mg per day post cycle for 1 week after, then 50mg etc.. Good Luck | ||
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Olympian 
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OK, 1)I also think your doses are too low, and I'm not some lunatic 'captain-insano' fan either...you'll see much better gains with the same amount of risk at 500 mg test/week and 400 mg deca/week... You obviously didn't do much research in planning this cycle, or you would have known that clomid, like was said above, is about an 11 on a 10 point scale...you should NEVER start a cycle without the proper ancillaries and gear IN HAND! I would also have nolvadex on hand in case of the onset of gyno...however, it if it pregesterone-induced gyno (from the deca) nolvadex will do no good anyway... So, GET SOME CLOMID ASAP, and some nolvadex if you can... About 2-3 weeks after your last test injection, start the clomid regimine. Day 1--200-300 mg This will get your HPTA back up to speed and keep your little "friends down under" from staking shrunk... BEST OF LUCK WITH THE REST OF THE CYCLE...let us know how it goes! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Eudemonia, what do you mean he should be concerened with water retention?? I mean some people like it and others don't but the bottom line is water weight = more muscle mass and strength so you can take full advantage of your cycle. As for health issues I understand it can have its implications high bp, ect... but, If you have serious health problem you might want to stay away from the AS. Mass Monster | ||
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Novice
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Thanks for all the advice so far. the reason that I am doing a half cycle is because it is my first,and since i'm working on a masters degree I am really low on funds. I have done a good amountof research but being my first cycle i'm going to have some questions. I know clomid is a must but some other sourse told me that it is over rated and I didn't believe him. do you guys think I will be able to put on 10lbs of muscle mass off of this cycle? remember i'm not some 350lb football player. jason | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Hey, I'm pretty much going to do the same cycle as large marge except I am going to go for 8 weeks with sos 500mg/wk and deca at 200mg a week. I have never done sos or deca before btw. Do I really need to get another bottle of deca. I mean will it hurt my gains that much? I do have my clomid and nolvadex though. | ||
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Novice
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posted February 27, 2001 12:08 PM