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MC
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posted March 27, 2000 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC   Click Here to Email MC     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68012015
Went to the Doctors today for a prescrption for an asthma inhaler.

While I was there I told him I had been taking Testosterone injections.

I said this was to increase my sex drive as felt I was lacking.

(I have not yet EVER taken an A/S)

Instead of the reaction I expected he actually praised me for my initiative in researching a cure for my [alleged] ailment [lack of libido].

He cautioned me that by using this self-prognosis I ran the risk of developing fatty breast tissue. He was delighted when I informed him that I had used Clomid as an Anti-estrogen to prevent this.

When I asked if he thought I had done something wrong, he said "Yes, you paid for it"

He says he can prescribe Testosterone but first I have to have a blood test to determine my Test level.

QUESTION
I have heard that taking a womens birth control pill 24hrs before the Blood test will lower my test levels.

Anyone ever heard of this or experienced it? I am not going to take anything that might mess with my pecker! Well, apart from Deca...

Even if he doesn't prescribe ANYTHING, I feel it is good my Doctor knows [thinks] I am taking Test as I will be able to approach him for Clomid/Anti-estrogens/Blood tests/Health Checks etc when on Cycle.

Finally - He spoke of a testosterone patch, probably fairly weak but maybe of some use?

I'll let you know how it all goes, but please if anyone knows the answer to the above question let me know ASAP.

Thanks


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Joseph_stalin
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posted March 27, 2000 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

do you know which birth control pill?

i think stress will lower test production. why not try that.

if you are going to the doc, do a 2 week cycle of a fast acting drug (dbol), then quit 3 days before you go into the doctors office. don't take clomid. your test levels might be pretty low.

but i don't know. i think because your natural test production will be shut down you will have a really low reading. but then again they might know you are on steroids because your estrogen levels will probably be elevated. also they might be able to detect the excess test.

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MC
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posted March 27, 2000 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC   Click Here to Email MC     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68012015
Just to clarify, I have not REALLY taken any test yet EVER. I intend to do a course which includes Test. I am just seeing what I can get for free!

My real intent is just to have my Doc know I am taking Test as it is in my interests. A script for Clomid would do but hey, if he wants to give me test...

The Birth Control pill I have is called Cilest:

250mcg Progestogen (norgestimate)
35mcg Oestrogen (ethinyloestradiol)

The blood test is in Five days time.

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Stickman99
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posted March 27, 2000 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stickman99     Edit/Delete Message
Try what J_s said but get the test done by another doc. To make sure that this works. You can get a blood test done at your request at the hospital. DONT do the patches cause they are 5mg/day and they suck!!! Ive been there. Check my post about the HCG!!!!
PS ask the doc for a total test count. They will not test estorgen levels unless you ask for it...

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MC
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posted March 27, 2000 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC   Click Here to Email MC     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68012015
Hmmm...strange to think that to obtain a female fertility drug (Clomid)I will consider taking a Birth Control pill...

And all to obtain a male hormone....

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doublehard
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posted March 27, 2000 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doublehard   Click Here to Email doublehard     Edit/Delete Message
Bump this Bro - Gonna try the same thing - let us all know how ya get on...

I read they won't give y'all much but it's worth a try!

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E2
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posted March 27, 2000 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Sounds like your doc is just going through the motions and he will write you a script as long as he's covered his ass, if your blood work come out with normal test levels, tell him yeah of course, i've been taking test injectinos to get it that way.

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MC
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posted March 27, 2000 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC   Click Here to Email MC     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68012015
But what about taking the Birth Control Pill? - will that lower the reading. Or just stop me getting pregnant...?

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filtheboss
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posted March 27, 2000 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filtheboss   Click Here to Email filtheboss     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 59593173
do the dbol wait 2weeks and then take blood work.
that will be good for about two months worth of shot at about 200 mg every two weeks from your doctor and then dont go back till you finish your cycle. at home with other roids and then wait about a month and repeat the blood test somewhere else to check it and if low go have it done by your doc and sit back another 2 months.

three weeks of dbol will raise your test and 3 weeks off will show low levels.

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coolhandluke
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posted March 27, 2000 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
if i were you i would not sleep for a day or two prior to the blood test. Also don't eat any fats....screw that, don't eat anything for a day or two.

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Dutch
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posted March 27, 2000 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dutch     Edit/Delete Message
Coolhand is right..

Do not eat for 24 hours and do not sleep.. this will drop your t-level for sure...

Dutch..

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XXXL
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posted March 27, 2000 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XXXL   Click Here to Email XXXL     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39468048
to answer your question about the pill. i don't think it's going to lower your test levels. the way i think it works is by raising certain hormone levels in women so the the body thinks it's pregnant so the egg can't become fetilized (99.8 times out of 100). but double check because i could be wrong. as for not sleeping to lower your test levels. that should help. your body produces test when you sleep. that's why most guys wake up with hardon's.

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A-mass
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posted March 27, 2000 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
Even if he does write you the script you will probably only be able to buy some really low amount, like 200mg per month. The good side is, once you have the script, you can get yourself out of a lot of legal trouble if you ever get caught with test that you didn't buy from your local pharmacy.

Anyway, it's my opinion that E2 is correct. He's just watching his back so he doesn't get a bad review by somebody for prescribing highly illegal drugs without performing any tests to confirm the condition.

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MP5
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posted March 27, 2000 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MP5     Edit/Delete Message
I do not understand how you will get it for free, a friend had a prescription and it was like $200!

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Cannonball
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posted March 27, 2000 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cannonball   Click Here to Email Cannonball     Edit/Delete Message
Yup, at the pharmacuetical prices for medication that increases libido or helps the guys with limp dicks, they pay all right. Most pharmacuetical insurance coverages can opt not to pay for them as they are considered "elective or choice" medicines that do not relate to your overall health or well being. But could definetly help with being caught with gear.

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the truth
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posted March 27, 2000 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth     Edit/Delete Message
MC is in the UK, so it would be free. See if you can educate your doc as to the best test to prescribe, as a lot of docs think the patch is acceptable, or they give you prop only once a week. See if he can give you a script for enanthate, for self use, 200 mg/wk. This way you can hoard enough to form the base of your cycles, and acquire the rest on the black market as you need it. He sounds as though he would be receptive to something like that.

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Joe Juicer
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posted March 28, 2000 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Juicer   Click Here to Email Joe Juicer     Edit/Delete Message
I doubt birth control pills would lower your natural test levels.

Instructions to lower natural test levels

(normally you would not want to do this)


  • Stay up late and wake up early. Don't nap.
  • Don't eat enough.
  • Don't eat any fats.
  • Overtrain.

Voila! You'll have super-low endogenous test levels in no time. Go in for your blood test and your doc will write you a 'script.

What I would do is tell him you'll administer the stuff at home and then hoard it. Take high-doses for eight weeks or so and then go off and begin hoarding again.

Or... better yet... just take what he gives you, when he gives you it and stack it with some black market stuff (deca, EQ, dbol, etc.)

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Joseph_stalin
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posted March 28, 2000 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message
what about O.D. on prohormones, 300 mg a day or so. they will shut down your natural test production if you take enough.

but yes, you might get 200 mg a week, which is about $10 worth. and he might give you deca or clomid.

i just read that 100 mg a week is what they give for full test replacement. and you will probably have partial. so you might only get 100-200 mg every 2 weeks. that is barely worth it. about $4 worth of test every 2 weeks.

[This message has been edited by Joseph_stalin (edited March 28, 2000).]

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MC
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posted March 28, 2000 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC   Click Here to Email MC     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68012015
Thanks for all the responses, as 'the truth' stated I am in the UK so the script is Approx $10.00 for a month. The trick will be getting as much as possible out of him.

He already thinks I inject ethanate and proianate so I will ask for something I can self-administer as suggested above.

Do you think he will be suspicious if I ask for Organon Sus250 redijects!!!!!!!

I'll keep you posted Bro's...

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Joseph_stalin
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posted March 28, 2000 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

i doubt it myself. i think that the docs prescribe long acting drugs like deca and enanthate for testosterone replacement. he might just think you are reading up or something and want something with a long half life. but he might suspect you have otehr intents for them too if you seem to know too much about this stuff.

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MC
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posted March 28, 2000 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC   Click Here to Email MC     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68012015
I was joking about the Sustanon redi-jects. Sorry - British humour!

Nice idea though - especially if he threw in a handfull of Dianabol...

:-)

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Karate guy
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posted March 28, 2000 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karate guy   Click Here to Email Karate guy     Edit/Delete Message
Man, I went to my Doc before and tried to hit em up for test., so they gave me the blood work and when it came back in normal range they wouldn't do it. Then they whined about justifying givin it to me. I was really tryin to talk em into it. Aw well.

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conan69
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posted March 28, 2000 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for conan69   Click Here to Email conan69     Edit/Delete Message
plus if he does give you a script you can alway alter it a little
200 mg
=
2000 mg

or 200mg = 1200mg

worth a try if he presribes low amounts

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doublehard
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posted March 28, 2000 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doublehard   Click Here to Email doublehard     Edit/Delete Message
They are right - the combined pill will not work, but a mini-pill might???

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toby
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posted March 29, 2000 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for toby   Click Here to Email toby     Edit/Delete Message
Dude youre fuckin lucky if you can get a doctor to prescribe you some test. Wish I was you.

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MC
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posted March 29, 2000 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC   Click Here to Email MC     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68012015
Well - the blood test is less than 24 hours away - I am already overtained and I am gonna do Legs in the morning, that should do it.

Struggling with the 'not eating bit', just had a plateful of chicken and eggs.

Late night and early morning...and we'll see what happens.

And I need to get stressed...OK I'll try and use the Search engine that oughta do it...

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