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 A.P.L./HCG HELP PLEASE!!!
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DRMARK Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 36) |
posted March 27, 2000 12:01 AM
 
I HAVE A PRESCRIPTION FOR HCG AND THE DR TOLD ME TO TAKE 5000IU/WEEK FOR 4 WEEKS TO RESTART MY NATURAL TEST PRODUCTION(WHICH IS CURRENTLY AT AN EXTREME LOW LEVEL).ANY OPINIONS/EXPERIENCES ON THE SUBJECT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.BY THE WAY ACCORDING TO MY DR THE RANGE FOR NORMAL TEST IS AROUND 25-30 NMOL/L.I'M AT 2! HELP!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
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A-mass Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 295) |
posted March 27, 2000 12:03 AM
The HCG will boost your test, but it will not do a good job of restarting it so it goes on its own. ------------------ the alpha male IP: Logged |
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DianaBallBusta Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 465) |
posted March 27, 2000 12:06 AM
 4 weeks seems like an extended amount of time to use HCG. More than 2 weeks and you could develop gyno...thats because it raises estrogen levels along with test levels. But I'm not a dr so listen to the man I guess bro. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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DRMARK Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 36) |
posted March 27, 2000 12:08 AM
SO IF IT WORKS ONLY TEMPORALILY TO BOOST ME THEN WHAT DO I DO AFTER TO GET MY NATURAL PRODUCTION BACK TO NORMAL?AM I GONNA HAVE TO TAKE TEST FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE?! IP: Logged |
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decota Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 6) |
posted March 27, 2000 12:13 AM
My doc gave me before 20,000 iu one injection to get started--I personally do 10,000 iu one shot at end or if long cycle one in between good luck IP: Logged |
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A-mass Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 295) |
posted March 27, 2000 12:16 AM
DRMARK, are your test levels low naturally, or is it because you are just coming off cycle? If you are coming off cycle, then it will start itself back up eventually on its own -- it's a negative feedback system, when you have low test levels, your body makes more. But after a cycle, your testes have atrophied, so they need to get turned on again -- HCG will do this, but Clomid will do it better, in my opinion. So no, you don't need to use test for your whoel life if that's the case. If you've got naturally low test levels... then talk to a doc about testosterone therapy treatment. ------------------ the alpha male IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 1024) |
posted March 27, 2000 12:19 AM
get him to prescribe you some clomid to stack with it- if you need to, since a lot of docs are not all that informed- tell him that HCG only mimics LH, you would like some clomid to helps stimulate production of LH and to act as an anti estrogen because of the possibilty of GYNO from HCG which upregulates aromatase production which translates into increased estrogen. If he is unable to understand this I will send you a more complete breakdown you can take to him. PEACE btw- it is a sad day when I, the poor layman, have to explain the pharmacological effects of various drugs on the endocrine system to a doctor- Given what I have seen from a lot of docs, I guess every day is a sad day. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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DRMARK Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 36) |
posted March 27, 2000 12:22 AM
A-MASS, TO REPLY TO YOUR QUESTION:I ALWAYS WAS AT NORMAL LEVELS UNTIL I STARTED JUICING 4 YEARS AGO(2 CYCLES/YR).THINGS HAVE NEVER BEEN NORMAL SINCE.IT'S BEEN ALMOST 1 YR SINCE MY LAST CYCLE AND NOTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL!DO YOU THINK THE HCG WILL FIX MY PROBLEM?(BY THE WAY IT REALLY SUCKS TO HAVE LOW TEST.I GO TO THE NIGHT CLUB AND HAVE CHICKS ALL OVER ME BUT I GOT THE SEX DRIVE OF A 5YR OLD!!! IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 1024) |
posted March 27, 2000 12:30 AM
yes it will help to fix your problem- the reason that hcg is NECESSARY in this case is because your nuts need a massive stimulus to get them producing again but you still should use the clomid too. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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DRMARK Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 36) |
posted March 27, 2000 12:35 AM
ANY SUGGESTIONS ON DOSAGE FOR THE CLOMID IN CONJUNCTION WITH MY 5000IU/WEEK OF HCG? IP: Logged |
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Stickman99 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 21) |
posted March 27, 2000 09:10 AM
I am on testosterone therapy due to a tumor that was on my pituatary gland. I had brain surgery and they removed it but they also damaged my pituatary gland and now my FSH and LH levels as well as DDAVP levels are below normal. My total test count was at 186 - 240. Doc says it should be 600-800. HCG will boost your levels but only temporary. Dont run it longer than 3 weeks without clomid. Clomid will regenerate your test levels. After levels normalize have levels checked again 6 wks after coming off the clomid. If they drop again then go back to the doc and tell him to start test therapy. The most youll get out of the doc is 200mg/every 2 wks. But that will still put you above normal. Also, unless insurance picks up the bill get the doc to write script for clomid, then order from Mexico cause clomid here cost $30 for 5 tabs. I have a script for it!!! I order from across the border for about $1/tab. Stick with the clomid during the test therapy as well. Every three wks on test run 2/wks clomid at 50mg day. This keeps your nads from atrophy and keeps your natural up. PS Let the doc start the test therapy before asking for clomid. Tell him you want the clomid for anti-estrogen to keep from getting gyno!!! If you have any questions email me at [email protected]. I have gone through all of this crap and I can tell ya exactly what to expect.....PS Dont run HCG alone for four wks or youll have bigger hooters than your girlfriend!!!! IP: Logged |
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