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Komo Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 9)	posted March 26, 2000 10:10 AM Clomid acts as an antagonist on estrogen receptors in the pituary, and thereby blocking the negative feedback of estrogen on LH production. If this is the only mechanism by wich clomid works, wouldn`t clomid be more effective to use when using AS that aromatise easily? If i am using a steroid that hardly doesn`t aromatise, I still shut down my natural test. At the end of the cycle I won`t even have my own test being converted to estrogen. But clomid works then too, doen`t it? Could someone please explain. /Komo IP: Logged
amine Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 8)	posted March 26, 2000 10:28 AM salut Komo si tu utilises un steroid fortement androg�ne t-u auras besoin du clomifen � la fin de ton cycle m�me s'il ne s'aromatise pas, car � defaut de maquer de testo l'orgabisme fabriquera plus d'oestog�ne pour compenser. S'il s'aromatisait tu aurais besoin d'utiliser le clomifen pendant (en tant que bloqueur des recepteurs d'oestrogene) et apr�s le cycle (relancer l'axe). Mais il faut aussi savoir que des steroides sans s'aromatiser peuvent provoquer une gyno en imitant l'effet de la progesterone, selon les predispositions toujours. Salut et si tu veux echanger des tuyaux sur les supplier fiables contact moi. IP: Logged
Komo Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 9)	posted March 26, 2000 11:13 AM Hi Amine! I lived in France for a while, but now I`m back in Sweden. I don`t know any french, so could you please answer in english? /Komo IP: Logged
A-mass Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 287)	posted March 26, 2000 11:44 AM Komo, go here http://www.detn8.org/bb/docs/antiestrogens.html good article on all anti-estrogens ------------------ ------------------- the alpha male IP: Logged
E2 Moderator (Total posts: 1678)	posted March 26, 2000 12:02 PM Amine you need to take clomid whether or not you're using a steroid that is very androgenic. The clomid works as you said, in binding to receptor sites therby blocking them so a stronger estrogen can't attatch. HOwever at the same time clomid taken during the cycle will stimulate LH and FSH, thus keeping your natrual test production going no matter what doses of anabolics you're on. Not that all non aromatizing steroids will bind with the progesterone recpetor, as far as i know only anadrol and deca will do that and cause progesterone like effects. Et si vous etes en france, contactez moi si-vous plait. [This message has been edited by E2 (edited March 26, 2000).] IP: Logged
A-mass Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 287)	posted March 26, 2000 12:12 PM Yep, LH and FSH are Luteinizing Hormone and Folicle Stimulating Hormone. LH is the hormone that causes you to produce testosterone and FSH is the hormone that gets you to produce sperm. One more progesterone binding AS is trenbolone. ------------------ ------------------- the alpha male IP: Logged

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