posted March 25, 2000 09:28 AM         

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1st cycle of GH (6 wks ) @ 4IU/day w/Enanthate,Sten,D-bol ( gear ran longer )
Incredible pumps, stayed lean although I wasn't trying to, I wanted to gain mass. I estimate actual muscle gains 3-5 lbs. Any suggestions to improve on this or is this a good result.

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posted March 25, 2000 10:38 PM            

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How many calories were you consuming..and did you increase your caloric intake as your weight increased?
Sounds like you didn't eat enough

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posted March 26, 2000 05:43 PM            

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This happened to me too. Did GH for 8 weeks at 4iu a day for 4 days in a week. Took test and deca. WAnted to gain mass but instead became more vascular and leaner, despite consuming adequate amounts of protein. Overall gain at the end was around 5lbs, which was a disappointment considering others seemed to have gained 20 -30lbs. Did i do something wrong? Should i have used insulin in the cycle?

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posted March 26, 2000 05:51 PM            

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use insulin and thyroid w/it and dont be afraid of the calories.. im talkin tons

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posted March 26, 2000 05:59 PM            

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GH burn so much fat is unbelievable. You can eat buckets and buckets of KFC and not show it in the gut. As for gain. Your getting quality gain. So, appreciate it.

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posted March 26, 2000 06:09 PM            

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If your not consuming at least 5,000 to 6,000 calories per day the results will be disastrous.Providing you're eating 6 high calorie/high protein meals per day in addition to 6 total tablespoons of MCT (medium chain triglycerides)and 6 Tbls. of Flax Oil(these fats alone contain roughly 1,700 calories) you should easily obtain a 15-20 pound gain in lean muscle and lose aboout 6 to 7 % in bodyfat in a six week period. Hey I had the same problem and I finally am doing it right after alot of research,you will love gh, EAT<EAT<EAT<EAT

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posted March 27, 2000 01:03 AM            

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I'm starting on another cycle of 8 weeks with GH and this time, I will make sure I take in tons of calories. I will also be using insulin. JUst a stupid question though, when you talk taking in calories, is there a protein - carb ratio that still needs to be maintained for optimal results?
Also, when GH is taken in the morning, how long do you need to wait before eating?

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posted March 28, 2000 05:32 AM            

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Use a 40Pro/30Carb/30Fat split. You can eat right after taking it. It's the insulin you have to wait 30mns after you use it to eat.

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posted March 28, 2000 06:26 AM            

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i was thinking of doing 4 IU eod. is that too much? i would hate to wast what little i can afford, but at the sametime i don't want to under dose.

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posted March 28, 2000 07:59 AM         

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No, 4IU every other day is a min' dosage, however used in conjunction with a little T3, insulin and creatine (15g a day) + gear (obviously) you can still expect great results.

All the best.....

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posted March 28, 2000 11:45 AM            

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i'll be doing 4 IU eod alone with insulin and sus250, it's the only test i'll have access to. i hate to use such an expensive test. oh well, i should be getting huge soon.

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posted March 28, 2000 11:46 AM            

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i mean 4 IU eod ALONG with. . .oops!

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posted March 28, 2000 03:27 PM         

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You need at least 100gms. of simple carbs RIGHT AFTER you take the insulin.If you don't, you could die

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posted March 29, 2000 12:37 AM            

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General rule. 10 grams of carbs (simple) for every 1 iu of imsulin. Eaten 30mns after you inject the insulin.

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