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Y2Kylee Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 131)	posted March 23, 2000 03:49 PM Right I have just about HAD IT! I had to train legs today and my knee just cant take it! Squats, Smith Machine Squats and Lunges are just making my knee burn like hell! (it makes me soooo mad!) Leg Extensions and Leg Press are OK (ish). Is there any exercises for legs that will go a bit easy on my knee for a bit?? And DONT TELL ME TO REST!! Please Help! Y2Kylee [This message has been edited by Y2Kylee (edited March 23, 2000).] IP: Logged
chestyII Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 424)	posted March 23, 2000 03:53 PM First, I will tell you to rest! A month of rest is better than six months or more of rehab. Take it from me, don't be stubborn. Now, have you seen an orthopedic specialist? If you can diagnose and correct the problem now it will be better than waiting till it locks or gives out. Stretch like crazy, use heat and ice before and after, use extremely light weights on extensions and presses and go for the squeeze and burn (long duration, high rep stuff) ------------------ SEMPER FI http://www.seriphos.net/CHESTYS/chesty.htm IP: Logged
2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 838)	posted March 23, 2000 03:53 PM Try the hack sled (but make sure that your legs do not bend beyond a right angle). Also, try knee wraps. Use glucosamine and chondroitin. It may help with the pain. Jon ------------------ Check out my Injection and Syringe Info Site= www.angelfire.com/biz5/syringes IP: Logged
Y2Kylee Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 131)	posted March 23, 2000 03:58 PM Thanks Guys, glucosamine and chondroitin - at what dosages and how often?? Y2Kylee IP: Logged
darkside Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 26)	posted March 23, 2000 04:03 PM i dont know aboutyou but i have tendonitis in my knee right below where the petala(sp) tendon connects to the knee. It hurts like hell, when i do legs which then hurts the least little bit when it gets hit or wheni walk. i just tough it out then ice, try antianflammatories like napricin or vioxx. good luck but mine has not gone away even with rest. IP: Logged
chestyII Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 424)	posted March 23, 2000 04:07 PM With tendinitus you need to be real careful. The cure if you let it go on too long, would be to do something like scrape the scar tissue off the tendon, like they did with my elbow, cause I was stubborn. If you catch it early rest and a cortisone shot may cure it. ------------------ SEMPER FI http://www.seriphos.net/CHESTYS/chesty.htm IP: Logged
2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 838)	posted March 23, 2000 04:22 PM You can buy the Glucosamine and Chondroitin at any health food store. The dosages are on the bottle, but I think it is 2 pills in the morning and 2 at night. You should take this everyday for as long as you need it. You need to take it for a few weeks before you feel the effects, though. It has helped out my younger brother (who is an Olympic lifter) with his knee problems. ------------------ Check out my Injection and Syringe Info Site= www.angelfire.com/biz5/syringes IP: Logged
TxCollegeguy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218)	posted March 23, 2000 04:34 PM Napricin is the real deal. I ran for 1 year with severe tendonittis in my right knee and took it...it kept me running even after I found out my bones where rubbing up against each other. Thank goodness for those wonderfull doctors IP: Logged
MC Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 116)	posted March 23, 2000 05:16 PM Have two weeks off legs, leave off your cardio and any impact training. Work on your free weights for upper body, you can still use your E/C/A - just hit the weights and hit them hard. Try again in a couple of weeks with legs. Do this or I'll stop givng you a lift to the Gym and then you will have something to complain about...! Later ------------------ * * * MC The more I learn the more I know the more I eat the more I grow! [This message has been edited by MC (edited March 23, 2000).] IP: Logged
doublehard Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 16)	posted March 23, 2000 05:54 PM Bump - I have BAD BAD knees too!! IP: Logged
Y2Kylee Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 131)	posted March 23, 2000 06:06 PM I had a bottle of wine and a bag of crisps to make me feel a little better! Thanks Guys! More on leg exercises would be great! Y2Kylee IP: Logged
Y2Kylee Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 131)	posted March 23, 2000 06:18 PM Sorry to bump my own message Y2Kylee [This message has been edited by Y2Kylee (edited March 24, 2000).] IP: Logged
ydnarb9 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 29)	posted March 24, 2000 01:41 AM Y2 kylee, Stay away from the smith machine its a horrible piece of equipment. It causes pattern overload syndrome so it is likely causing your knees to hurt. I also have bad knees. In all honesty, the basic squat is the only one that does not cause any pain for me. You might also want to try 1/1/4 sqauts. Basically what you do is go down to parallel and then up 1/4 of an inch and then back down to parallel and back up to the starting posistion. Try it. It really burns and you don't have to use a lot of weight. IP: Logged
studcj Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 388)	posted March 24, 2000 02:09 AM REST!! Have you even tried it. I had the same problem. I gave my knees a good two weeks rest with lots of ice. I haven't had a problem since. ------------------ "I can, because Im crazzy!" Studcj IP: Logged
Gobler Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 146)	posted March 24, 2000 02:39 AM There are many leg exercises that can be performed without any stress on the nee's Such as seated indivual leg lifts with an isometric contraction hold. If your to stuborn to rest,learn them and use them. IP: Logged
Mr H Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 91)	posted March 24, 2000 02:41 AM I've dislocated my left knee twice. What I do is wear a knee brace when I'm training and a few hours after and then switch to a knee wrap and sleep with it on. Ice if needed and a warm bath never hurt either. Also, don't overdo it! I've learned that I have to use light weight, don't push it to the extreme because it will just give out on ya. Take care. IP: Logged
bignate73 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 190)	posted March 24, 2000 04:06 AM i think a rest for a while is good. also take a look at form as was said before. knees cant go past the toes, or you are asking for pain. if leg presses dont hurt- (ish) then look at how you are doing them and see how it differs from your squat. is your stance too narrow for your height? are your knees traveling straight towards your toes and not out or in? you want to try to maximize muscle involvement and minimize twisting stress or overleveraging your knee. just a thought. im constantly checking myself on legs...fear of injury i guess. hope that helps. ------------------ lift eat grow!!! IP: Logged
Lqdmscle Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 24)	posted March 24, 2000 04:16 AM Rest! Rest! and Rest! Why are you training? You train for growth and improvement. When you train, whether legs or upper body, you break down muscles and tissues. The pain (not sore) is an indication that your body has broken down and need recovery. If you must train, then you should do very light weight to prevent atrophy. ------------------ << Pump it! Shock it! Rest it! Grow it! >> IP: Logged
Y2Kylee Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 131)	posted March 24, 2000 05:49 AM Thanks All! Y2Kylee IP: Logged
IronDave Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 58)	posted March 24, 2000 06:38 AM try using some msm (available at any health food store) along with the glucosamine and chondroitin.Be consistent for at least a month to see any relief. IP: Logged
MC Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 116)	posted March 24, 2000 09:40 AM Gobler, what is >>seated indivual leg lifts with an isometric contraction hold? Could you post an explanation? Cheers. IP: Logged
doublehard Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 16)	posted March 24, 2000 01:59 PM BUMP! IP: Logged
Y2Kylee Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 131)	posted March 24, 2000 05:23 PM Can anyonne enlighten me on - seated indivual leg lifts with an isometric contraction hold? Thanks Again BB! Y2Kylee IP: Logged
Gobler Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 146)	posted March 24, 2000 06:54 PM The exercise I described above is an exercise used in therapy for knee injuries. This is how you perform it 1 Sit on the floor or a stretch mat with your back against the wall keeping your back straight. 2 Lift one leg off the ground as high as you can, then hold for 3 sec, then with both hands slowly push on your quad forcing your raised leg to the ground while resisting with your leg. Concentrate on tightening your quad through the movement. 3 do a set of 8-12 with each leg for 3-4 sets each repetition should last appx 5sec This is one of the only quad excercises that can be performed without any tension on the knee. There are many exercises like this that can be performed with high intensity. Without trainig you in person it would be hard to literate them all. Heres some tips that may help your injury 1. Do not perform knee flexion past 70 to 80 degrees 2. As mentioned above take glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate(May take 1-2 months before noticeable) 3. massage the quad to free up any adhesions in the muscle that might cause a lopsided contraction. 4. Use ice and heat and anti inflamitories if needed. 5. If you feel pain STOP. if you overtrain an inflamed tendon you run the risk of rupturing it. 6. Warm up slowly and lightly(get those synoviol fluids going before any resistance training). 7. Take a look at your diet. If your not eating lots of fresh fruits and vegetable you will lack enzymes, vitamins and minerals. Without these your body will not repair it self properly. 8. Strengthen sourding muscles such as calves, glutes, tibialis and hamstrings 10. The one you dont want to hear. One of the best things for an injury is REST 11. If it persists see a sports medacine doctor. Your average doctor wont know half of what i just said. IP: Logged
ozzymandius Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 152)	posted March 25, 2000 02:35 AM I don't know much, but I have basically the same problem. With my experience whith naperxin(sp?) my knee popped out 3x while I was taking it, just walking around, up stairz and taking a piss in the mall. i had a entire bottle and gave it to my buddy. not to follow the crowd but rest and the Doc are about it. sorry IP: Logged