posted March 23, 2000 03:35 AM            

They'd make a 100 times more than on that other shit they make.

Talk to Govenor Jesse Ventura-he juiced and now he's got influence.

If not him,then provide pros to the millions of cons that the media has pooped out of it's puny little scandal,reefer madness,scare tactic,scape goat little mind.

Really,provide the real pros and cons to the President.Tell him the truth or tell him to read the World Anabolic Review.Remind him of how many other countries have no problem with it and that it was caused by Lyle Alzato's lying to the public.

Lyle Alzato-deceased former professional football player for the LA Raiders.He was gay and got Aids the truth if you need my source of truth then e-mail me.

Anyway,Lyle says public on Larry King
that Steroid and GH use totally fucked his immune system.Bullshit those drugs help it.

Just because he was gay and got aids he makes gear the scape goat and fucks it up for everyone else.

Shortly before he decided to Speak publicly,there were rumors circulating about his gay lifestyle.

Instead of taking responsibility for it,he blames what took him to the top and made him very rich into a fucking scape goat.

posted March 23, 2000 02:30 PM            

Because they are illegal, people have to be sneaky to acquire them, and this results in much uneducated use. Uneducated use is a recipe for disaster.

Not only that, but because they are illegal, fakes abound.

There is a belief in many cirlces, that the government should be able to legislate what we put into our bodies.

As much as I am anti-recreational drugs, that doesn't give me the right to tell others what to do. I'll never use cocaine or acid or whatever, but if "you" want to....go right ahead. Your body.....

Regarding athletes - steroid use in pro and college sports is rampant. RAMPANT. Not just football players - swimmers, track athletes, and so on.

Legalizing drugs and educating people about them (all drugs, including steroids) would only help people to make more informed decisions, and those are the best kind.

Somebody wake me up when it happens.

posted March 23, 2000 02:49 PM            

Samual Adams stated, "Revolution must occur in a country every 100 years to keep the government clean"....

posted March 23, 2000 02:58 PM            

Jon

posted March 23, 2000 04:09 PM            

STEROIDS OR AIDS...YOU DECIDE..WHAT KILLED X- FOOTBALL LYLE ALZADO! - Written by Jim Beam

Lyle Alzado was born April 3, 1949 in Brooklyn, New York. Lyle led a wild and rebellious life. At age fifteen, he managed to get a job as a bouncer at a local bar. While gainfully employed at the brewery.. he managed to be stabbed 4 different times. This along with being constantly jailed...led him to finally getting somewhat straightened out.

He decided that he wanted to play high school football.. and maybe go on to college. Unfortunately...Lyle was not so bright.. and never put much emphasis on his studies. This led to his high school coach having to alter his grade transcripts in order for him to get into college. He only got into one college, which was Yankton College. Yankton was a small college, with a small team.. but this is all Lyle needed.

He soon figured out that he just didn't have the size or strength to ever be a top football player without the use of steroids..which at this time we very easy to get at any local gym.. and legal!

Lyle was able to go from the 200-220 lbs. range to eventually the 300 lbs. range with the help of "MASSIVE" amounts of steroids..(estimated at $30,000 per year once a professional athlete!). He recalls his first "Cycle" of 50 milligrams a day of Dianabol being very affective with almost immediate results!

Lyle always had a volatile temper...one of the worst in NFL history. When he added the enormous amounts of steroids.. and other performance enhancing drugs.. the results were staggering. A "RAGED" man out of control!

By 1971, he made his debut with the Denver Bronco's when Pete Duranko was injured during a game. This was the opening Lyle needed to establish himself in the NFL. From this point on, he established himself as one of the hardest hitting, meanest football lineman in history!

In 1977, he was NFL Defensive player of the year, and Pro-Bowl Player of the year in 77 and 78. He always started.. even until the end. He later played with Cleveland for 3 years. Then, in 1982, was an 8th round draft choice by the Raiders, where he was voted the NFL's Comeback Player of the Year! Lyle would eventually retire from football, but this would soon be changed!

In 1990, Lyle made his intentions clear that a 40 year was not over the hill, and that he was going to stage a HUGE comeback for his vie at making the Raiders team once again. Lyle hired numerous trainers such as Fred Hatfield (Dr. Squat.. squated 1014 lbs. at age 43 in 1987), Jeff Turner (a personal trainer), and famous Hypnotherapist, Dr. Seigal. These people along with several other professionals made up Lyle's dream team.

It wasn't long before Lyle was injecting, gulping, or whatever every drug he could get his hands on. He eventually got up to 275 lbs. body weight...at around 8-10% bodyfat...which is unheard of for an NFL football player. Lyle later admitted to Human Growth Hormone usage for almost 2 years straight before his death.

I vividly remember a Connie Chung interview with the late great where she asked about his steroid usage.. he admittedly denied the allegations! "I use four personal trainers..and train 6 times a day!" was his quote.

The front cover of Sports Illustrated in 1991 shows a picture of Lyle Alzado stating he "Lied" about his steroid usage.. and that that is what is going cause him to die. Interestingly, no doctors ever conclusively agreed with Lyle, although he hadn't been off steroids in 30 years, even when he was retired from football.

Lyle first started noticing signs of something wrong the second day after his marriage to his new wife...when he became dizzy and passed out. Doctors later revealed a VERY..VERY.."RARE" form of brain cancer...T-cell lymphoma. This type of disorder immune deficiency has never appeared on any other steroid user in history to date. Interesting huh???

Lyle soon dropped down to 215 pounds.. then eventually even lower. He started chemotherapy.. lost all of this hair (hence, the head bands!)...and was later consumed.

There is much speculation today as to what the actual cause of death was. No one is really certain. Lyle died.. and was buried the next morning. No services. Very hush-hush and quick.

In 1993, I had a rare opportunity to meet with a very famous athlete, coach, and human being, who relegates to and knows Joe Weider very well. This is a famous person I'm talking about, with incredible integrity and honesty. I met with this person right before his death and we talked briefly about Lyle's death.

This person, who knows Lyle's family personally, told me face to face, that his death was AIDS related, and not from steroids or growth hormone. That Lyle had led to some degree an alternative lifestyle which led to his demise.

Lyle appeared in over 15 total movies with his last being "Neon City" (circa 1992). He played Bulk..(why not!). He also appeared in "Who's Harry Crumb'.. with John Candy and on a MacGyver episode in 1985. Lyle had numerous movie deals..(although usually b-rated) working right before his death on May 14, 1992.

Lyle was also nominated to the ACLU Sports Hall Of Shame Hate Crimes Against Women. He assaulted a police woman.. and was charged with battery.

Lyle although controversial, like his death, will go down regardless as a great former NFL football player. He brought vitality, eagerness, and an incredible desire to be the best to the sport of football.

-Jim Beam-

posted March 24, 2000 02:05 AM            

A flood of letters-and I mean a flood,but all of us.Well lets get a post and say well mail and I mean letter mail in an envelope.

Every BB board on the net-lets have a post that simply says who ever is going to mail to Mr.Ventura and Mr.Clinton.Let's collect as many I'll mails as we can in 2-3 weeks and well all mail in the same time and do it over and over till it can not and will not be ignored.

How do you think Jesse or the President would react if once a month or week they were flooded with intelligent letters stating to let AS out legal again.

Fuck it,I'll be the ring leader,but Everyone you must support me on this.

Here's the deal-I'll get both Bill Clinton's address and Gov. Ventura's.
I will post a legalize AS flood their offices with mail campain,and everyone mails physically to the provided addresses.

I will post tomorrow at-The Rock's,Here,Anabolex,Renegade,
Anabolic Extreme,Mesomorphasis,and Gym Rats.I'll need everyone's fucking support.We'll collect as many as we can for 2-3 weeks and then GO! the Gov offices are flooded with AS mail-A media stir-who knows something actually might happen.

posted March 24, 2000 11:01 PM            

Gotta disagree about the "massive abuse" comment.

People are using AS now, without really knowing what it will do, or too much about what could go wrong. There are people who use AS - they are injecting something and don't even know what it is, yet they put it in their bodies.

Legalization would bring education.

The same is true of rec. drugs - I'll never use them but so many people do because they aren't well - informed.

All I am trying to say is that informed decisions are the best kind, and legalizing would bring information.

No flame bro.

posted March 25, 2000 11:26 PM            

Studcj
The cost of sending letters would be less than $5.00 a month, if every one participated. I don�t think you have been around any high schools lately, Kids are already abusing AS. If we can legalize them it would be under a doctor�s supervision with a prescription. This would make it safe for BBs and athletes to use them. In fact this will solve the abuse problem as well. Once AS becomes more available it will be harder to obtain on the street because there would be no need purchase through a dealer. This will also save a lot of kids from receiving fake stuff which will prevent the many dangers involved with that.

Thanks for all the feedback.
�Constructive Criticism�

posted March 26, 2000 01:14 AM            

My point was simply that even though AS are illegal now, they are easily obtained.....

but because they are illegal, people don't always know where to turn for answers about them - most people won't say to their doctor, "Hey doc I'm using something illegal, and I got a few questions....".

Instead, people, especially teenagers, but people of all ages, are using them without enough knowledge.

I contend that legalizing them would at the very least, make a great deal more information about them available to many more potential users.

Just my thoughts,