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champion Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 104) |
posted March 22, 2000 07:51 PM
  
Just wanted to know how this drug impacts your body and what the negative side effects towards bodybuilding are. In case anyone was wondering I DO NOT USE this stuff. A buddy of mine started using it and since he is into weightlifting I want some info to give to him in hopes that he will stop before it gets bad. Thanks. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 334) |
posted March 22, 2000 07:52 PM
your buddy's a smart guy... IP: Logged |
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studcj Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 377) |
posted March 22, 2000 07:57 PM
No, your buddy is not a smart guy. Get him off that shit no matter what it takes. Go to a bunch of anti-drug websites and look at all that stuff. Do anything to get him off. I have lost a lot of acquatinces from this shit.They didn't die(yet) but I won't even be around them anymore. It disgusts me. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 334) |
posted March 22, 2000 08:04 PM
bump for studcj....btw studcj, that was sarcasm  IP: Logged |
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BigCatratcho Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 235) |
posted March 22, 2000 08:09 PM
cocaine will wear your body out. bad for a body builder (I'll leave out what it does to your sinuses, and cart in your nose) loss of appetite just tell him it'll make him skinny and weak faster than heroin. any of the "AINES" pretty much fuck you up IP: Logged |
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E2 Moderator (Total posts: 1589) |
posted March 22, 2000 08:12 PM
FIRST OFF COCAINE IS NOT SOMETHING TO MESS WITH! GET YOUR FRIEND OFF IT AS SOON AS YOU CAN, AND YES DO ANYTHIGN YOU CAN TO GET HIM OFF. Cocaine is not something to mess with, many people think that because it has no clear physical withdrawl symptoms that it's not addictive but there have been studies done with rats comparing cocaine to heroin. Given and unlimited supply of heroin 1/3 will neglect food and water to take heroin until they eventually die from it, given an unlimited supply of cocaine over 90% of them will neglect everything else except cocaine until it kills them. Cocaine is not something to mess with, i know it's prevalent and it's everywhere, i'm sure some of the people on this board have tried it, it is not something to mess around with.
There have been studies done on atheletes performance using cocaine, hand strength increased by 35-45% reactions quickened by over 40% and increased overall energy by 15%. Now i've never taken it nor do i ever plan on taking it, so i can't possibly talk about how it feels or what it's like, and quite frankly i'm glad that i can't. I would do anything i could to get my friend off of it. IP: Logged |
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Mr. Nasty Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 87) |
posted March 22, 2000 08:17 PM
Whatever you do...get him away from that shit! I lost a family member to it, and I have never heard of a "casual" user . Sooner or later they all become addicts. IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 981) |
posted March 22, 2000 08:20 PM
STUDCJ I know exactly what you mean, I mean those people are like those losers that take steroids-all they care is about themselves and how big they are. Then when you hang out with them at the club they dont even drink, like normal people, cause they are fucked up on that "healthy" date rape drug. What you really have to watch out for is when the lose-it, I mean talk about roid rage. Why do these guys have to be so big, maybe if there dicks were not so small they might be not need all those muscles to beat up on people with. Just warning you so you could stay away from those type of people. BTW_- I dont use the "evil" white powder, but I say "judge not lest ye be judged and thus found wanting". Yes addiction to cocaine can be very severe but often it is not the drug itself merely the fact that the drugs fills the emptiness or hole that was already there- cocaine makes you feel powerful and in control- the people who lack those feelings are most likely to become addicted to cocaine. With steriods it is that little or fat kid that no matter how big he becomes will still see that small or fat construct of themselves when they look in the mirror. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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komododragon Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 20) |
posted March 22, 2000 09:01 PM
OK, here's my take on coke. Coke has its own priority in life. Its all or nothing. Yeah you can use it for a while, but if you have any other priorities in your life, like love, work, etc then sooner or later you'll find that coke has absolutely no place in your life. However, on the other hand, if you don't have anyother priorities, in otherwords your life sucks (and there are a lot of people out there whose lives suck big time), then coke might just become the end all in your life, no pun intended. My advice...tread very carefully. IP: Logged |
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Marauder Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 151) |
posted March 22, 2000 09:35 PM
I have lost a bunch of friends over the shit..We were still friends at first, but a cokehead will steal or dick-over ANYONE and I mean anyone!! Stop him if you care about him. Good luck bro. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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THESAINT Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 188) |
posted March 22, 2000 09:51 PM
CHAMPION, HELP YOUR FRIEND GET AWAY FROM THAT SHIT. IT WILL GET AHOLD OF YOU AND WON'T LET GO. I HAVE FRIENDS THAT DON'T EVEN HAVE A CAR, BUT I GO TO THERE HOUSE AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE LINES ON THE TABLE. MACRO IS RIGHT, IT WILL FILL A VOID. SOMETHING MUST BE MISSING IN HIS LIFE AND HE TURNED TO COKE TO FILL IT. IP: Logged |
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Xman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 2) |
posted March 22, 2000 10:00 PM
It will in time destroy your friends life. It can/ will take over his every thought. He will steal, cheat ,lie, hate, and plain do anything for that next high. I hope and pray your friend never get's to that level. If he does good luck! I myself have never used cocaine but i have seen it destroy several friends. These friends by the way said they would never get addicted guess again. GOOD LUCK IP: Logged |
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T-BONE Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 5) |
posted March 22, 2000 11:13 PM
If there's only one person's advice you take on this subject, let it be mine. I am an EX dealer, and have watched many people waste away to nothing from the stuff. I would normally not come out and tell people about what I USED to do, but if my ignorance at the time can enlighten you enough to help your buddy, then it's worth it. Everyone has given good advice so far, listen to them. I have seen, and been responsible for, many healthy people rotting away to nothing. I'm not proud of it, but like I said, if I can in any way convince you to help your buddy, it's worth it. Best of luck to your friend. IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 384) |
posted March 22, 2000 11:36 PM
bros, I say do whatever it takes to get him off of the shit. I had a really bad experience with someone very dear to me - but just know that it is going to be difficult to get between your buddy and the cocaine. Macro is right in saying that the drug often fills a void, fills a hole that was already there. My experience with a coke addict was as Macro said: She was looking to feel powerful and in control, becasue she didn't feel those things when she was not on the coke. But Macro I respectfully disagree as far as being judgmental - trying to get someone off of cocaine is not really passing judgment on them, just helping them to see that they can do without it. Ultimately only the user can decide to stop anyway. Matt IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 981) |
posted March 23, 2000 12:01 AM
MATT I am was not talking about someone who obviously has a problem or even someone that might have a problem. my problem is with people who judge the mere use itself as evil- the addiction and its consequences are evil- though mostly becuase the cost of cocaine is so high- I will once again reiterate my point that the legalization of all drugs is the only avenue through which national and individual salvation can be reached- the goal of the state should be to educate NOT to incarcerate. I realize that a lot of people are incomplete but to put them in prison or into bankruptcy to punish them for filling that void in their life with drugs is the path of horrors that our nation state has, unfortunately, chosen to follow. Think of how many crimes could be avoided if drugs were cheap- but such access should be mitigated by education and social welfare and research into depression etc...Obviously people have a lot of problems- just look at the number of people on anti depressants- This to me says that we need to take a look at our society and try to deal with the repression and violence, especially family violence, that is the source of so many peoples "incompleteness". sorry to ramble- but it saddens me that so many needs drugs to fill a hole that should not be there in the first place. as always ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Mr H Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 60) |
posted March 23, 2000 12:08 AM
I was an Ecstacy head for a while- lost 20lbs of MUSCLE in a few months (it sure as hell wasnt the fat that dissappeared- get him off of it quickly. I mean if he's training hard he can stay big, but his gains will decrease if he akes it while on gear, as I've witnessed from my friends who do E. IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 384) |
posted March 23, 2000 12:12 AM
Macro, It saddens me as well to see people filling holes in their life with drugs. I agree with you that legalizing is the best course of action - don't really want to ramble, but yes education will do a LOT more than incarceration....informed decisions are the best kind. Even with steroids - I know so many people who use irresponsibly, and even more people who are quick to label steroids and their users as "evil" or whatever else..... I wonder if you or I will ever see the day drugs are legalized. Well I guess I rambled anyway. Matt IP: Logged |
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BIG_BILLY Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 53) |
posted March 23, 2000 01:58 AM
Two years ago, me and about 5 other friends thought coke was cool and the thing to do, well long story short I lost 15 pounds in 2 months and was lucky to have the sense and two BIG brothers that beat the shit out of me till i stopped, as for the others one is dead from a heroin overdose, and the others are all skinny pukes still snorting their lifes away and are about two steps away from death. coke is some bad shit man. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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the truth Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 222) |
posted March 23, 2000 02:52 AM
I party from time to time. I don't pass judgment on coke or coke use, but it's easier all around to never get involved w/ it. Every bad habit you acquire makes it that much more difficult to discipline yourself. IP: Logged |
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champion Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 104) |
posted March 23, 2000 03:04 AM
Thanks for the replys guys. I plan on hounding him every day and if it comes down to it I may knock him out and stick him in a rehab clinic. I to have had friends lost to this drug but since this particular friend is/was into bodybuilding I was hoping some facts about negative effects on getting and keeping gains while using would have a positive impact on getting him off. As far as I know he is only using minor amounts on the weekend and hopefully I can get his mind back on the right track before this problem escalates. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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