posted March 22, 2000 06:55 PM            

I am 6ft, 185 lbs, skinfolds 46mm (8 sites)(It would be good to get this at about 38mm). I want to do my first cycle. I figured about 8 weeks. I want the stuff out of my system 4 months after I finish (closest time I may have to pass an IOC urine test).
I want BIG strength gains, my sport is mainly using back and guts, so they will be the emphasis. I would like to keep about 6-8 kilos after I have gone off the stuff, anymore and people will know I will have been juice'n. Of course I will do things to hide it, like, wear baggy clothes when taining, not shower around anyone else, train with as many people as often as possible so they dont see me get huge all of a sudden, and will probably bleech my hair to take the emphasis off my physique.
Anyway, I have done a lot of reading and here is what I came up with, your advice would be greatly apriciated.

I had in mind clenbuterol, testosterone propionate and injectable stanozolol.

Week 1 - clen 60mcg p/day, 2 day on/2 off
1cc stanozolol p/day
?? test

Week 2 - same as above except 120mcg of clen

Week 3 - 2cc stanozolol p/day
?? test

week 4 - as above

week 5 - as above but with 120mcg clen 2 days on/off

week 6 - as above

week 7 - as above with no clen

week 8 - stanozolol 1cc p/day
?? test

sorry if it is confusing.

I have heard you guys talk about clomid, but I didn't know how long it stayed in your system so I didn't include it.

Also will taking testosterone propionate make me stink, thus everyone realising that I am juice'n.

Also I have realised that AS names are very similar so people use slang names for them I am unfamilar with them.

Also please feel free to e-mail me.

posted March 22, 2000 07:50 PM            

where is the prop in your cycle, all i see is clen and winny.