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Hey everybody, I love the site. It's really informative. I was wondering if anyone could help me out by telling what kind of dosages I should be using on my upcoming (second) cycle. I will be using oral D-bol and primodestin -depo Injection. If anyone could advise me on how much I should use with both, and maybe what size gauge for the darts? Any help would be very appreciated!
Thanks so much.

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RoNiN
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(Total posts: 44) posted March 22, 2000 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RoNiN     Edit/Delete Message

I'm not familiar with the primo but for the Dbol I recommend the following:

First time with Dbol: 20 mgs a day
Used Dbol before: 30 mgs a day.

I did my Dbol cycles that way and I found the first time 20 to be enough. Now with 30 and stacking it with primo you should get some good results from that.

Mind you that is still considered modest dosages but at the same time you do not have to worry too much about the harshness on the liver or any other side effects with these amounts.

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BIG HURT
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(Total posts: 62) posted March 22, 2000 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG HURT   Click Here to Email BIG HURT     Edit/Delete Message
Personally,10mg a day of D and 250-500 mg. a week of primoteston should be plenty,Just don't forget the calories and ass busting training

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Happy
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(Total posts: 4) posted March 22, 2000 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy   Click Here to Email Happy     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks guys,
Big hurt-What do mean by calories?
More is what I think you mean, but I'm a little overweight at 15.5 Percent.
Should I still increase cals?
Also, do either of you guys (ronin-Big hurt) reccommend any milk thistle for the liver?
And clomid/nolvadex for maintenance and Gyno, or am I on a tame enough cycle not to worry?

Thanks for the info
Haps

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E2
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(Total posts: 1604) posted March 22, 2000 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Big Hurt 10mg a day?? Don't you think that's a little light?? It's only two tabs.

I'd go for 30mg.day of the dbol and 500 or more of the primotest.

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Happy
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(Total posts: 4) posted March 23, 2000 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy   Click Here to Email Happy     Edit/Delete Message
E2--
you mean 500 mg's of the primo per week?
Or do you think I should go every 4-5 days??
Also-Do you recommend a 23 gauge for the primo??
Thanks
Hap

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BuffEnuf
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(Total posts: 301) posted March 23, 2000 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BuffEnuf   Click Here to Email BuffEnuf     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 63015976
Happy I am on d-bol and primotest right now with a little deca. I take 500mgs a week of the primotest (250mgs monday, 250mgs thursday) and 35mgs of d-bol everyday. Yes take the milk thistle for your liver, 3 capsels a day is good. Also I use a 23ga 1 1/2" pin in my glute.

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susthead
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(Total posts: 31) posted March 23, 2000 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for susthead   Click Here to Email susthead     Edit/Delete Message
with pins just remember this

greens for oil based stuff
blues for water based stuff

simple..

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E2
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(Total posts: 1604) posted March 23, 2000 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
I don't know what you mean green and blue all my syringes are clear, i'd use a 22g for everything, it does what it needs to and doesn't hurt me.

If you want to go every 5 days for your shots that's fine.

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2Thick
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(Total posts: 800) posted March 23, 2000 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
The needle sizes in Europe are color coded.

Jon

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