posted March 22, 2000 01:16 AM         

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Does anyone know if the dissolving liquid in the fina kits is safe for injecting?
In Canada the fina that we've been getting is just crushed up pellets and oil.
ANY INFO??

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posted March 22, 2000 01:34 AM            

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Is it sterile? No.

It would have to be put through a syringe filter and a lot of other shit. I would go with the DMSO route.

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posted March 22, 2000 08:12 AM            

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if you get a kit from animal it comes with steril filters. but also think about this when you put dmso on your leg even if you wrap it up, anything that is in the air with get into your system i think that is less steril i prefer the kits

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posted March 22, 2000 08:47 AM            

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I agree with Conan... I am going the injecting method.

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posted March 22, 2000 11:29 AM            

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Well, I think that if DMSO let everything into your body they couldn't be selling it as a skin cream. I know it's a carrier chemical, but I think that it only permits whatever is in the solution into your bloodstream. Once again, just speculation but I still think it's safer than the injection route.

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posted March 22, 2000 12:08 PM         

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Where can I get one of these fina kits that all of you are talking about? Are they legal? How much?

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posted March 22, 2000 12:14 PM         

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posted March 22, 2000 02:43 PM         

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Has anyone actually used the kit from Animal? I can get the fina pellets, just curious if the stuff that the pellets are disolved in is safe for injecting.

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posted March 22, 2000 04:59 PM         

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I used a kit from animal and made 8000mg's of the fina tryed it to see if it was cool to inject and I had no prob's, getting ready to switch to the fina stacked with stenox, eq and some test and gh....can't wait

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posted March 22, 2000 06:02 PM            

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Cool, maybe it's worth checking into. Any one who has gone with the kits please post your results/opnions on it.

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posted March 22, 2000 06:06 PM            

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Juicer56,

Stenox is the same as halotestin. It puts a pretty good beating on your liver. Wouldn't stay on more than 4 weeks.

Matt

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posted March 22, 2000 06:54 PM         

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I was also wondering if it was safe or if anyone has gotten an infection from using fina kits. Lets keep the posts coming fellas.

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posted March 22, 2000 08:46 PM         

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DMSO only is a transdermal carrier for things w/ a molecular weight of 600 or less. Also its ability as a carrier is reduced at lower percent solns. So skin creams are not 99% which u want to use w/ TA. I had good results w/ the 99.7% soln I applied in the morn b4 my shower and after 15-20 min showered... using a lot of water b/4 soap. Cause the water will dilute the DMSO to a level where it is no longer effecive as a transdermal carrier.

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posted March 22, 2000 10:26 PM            

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One question. Where the hell can you get the dmso? Its funny, I had no problem with the fina but the dmso is harder. I put a couple orders in for it on sites I found on the web but they never deliver or even bother to try and charge me.

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posted March 22, 2000 10:32 PM         

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U can get DMSO from some hardware/drugstores look in the paint section. Or most feed or horse stores carry it... look for 99% pure or better DMSO.

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posted March 22, 2000 11:37 PM            

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Is there a problem with using the DMSO method overnight,I apply 3pellets eod,then wrap,and go to bed.Ive noticed everyone else does it in morning for only a short while,is there a reason for this?I'm making great gains on the finaplix,30mgs ed anabol,500mgs testex weekly.Best muscle building stack ive ever done.

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posted March 22, 2000 11:42 PM            

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A syringe filter does not make the mixture sterile. It simply keeps the filler and binders (which are likely still bound to some TA) from getting through.

DMSO is the route.

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posted March 22, 2000 11:46 PM            

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Nugent. If you use it then morning it's less likely to convert in the scalp I think. Macro would know the details on that though.

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posted March 22, 2000 11:55 PM            

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You lost me Scourge,but thats not hard to do.BTW is DMSO fairly safe to the liver ,kidneys etc,?

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posted March 23, 2000 12:00 AM            

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I don't actually know if DMSO is carried through the bloodstream. I would imagine some of it would have to make it through.

Another follow up for macro if he's watching this thread

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posted March 23, 2000 03:01 AM         

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Only reason to use the TA/DMSO in the morn is so your bed doesn't stink so damn bad... due to the dmso. And DMSO works quickly so I see no reason to have it on for several hours when a few min is plenty. Re the safety of DMSO on kidneys etc u can find MSDS (material safety data sheets) reports on DMSO and it appears to be fairly safe at the levels it is used for this application. (NOTE: u can find msds on any chemical on the web)
Re: Syringe filters they are designed to remove bacterial contamination however if you put the liquid u just filtered into a non sterile container u have just recontaminated it. I don't know why anyone whould want to deal w/ extraction of TA/ resuspend in oil and filter then shoot it in your ass. When if take about 5 seconds to crush the pellets and apply w. DMSO and have great results.
Re: the scalp thing if u are talking about the conversion to cause baldness... that is caused by the TA not the DMSO and is going to happen reguardless of how or when u apply it. All that is happening is by using gear u are speeding up the biological clock... if u are predisposed to male pattern baldness u are going to lose hair sooner or later... The good news is you will prob grow a nice thatch on your back. Maybe transplants are in order....

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posted March 23, 2000 05:37 PM         

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Thanx for the info,looks as though i will take the DMSO route

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posted March 24, 2000 12:38 AM            

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Thanks Todd,great info.Ive noticed that I
dont smell too bad,but the following day I can smell it in my breath.

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posted March 24, 2000 01:47 AM            

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Piece of advice: breathmints and listerine!

Stuff is potent!

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posted March 26, 2000 11:21 PM            

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This stuff is making my legs as hard as hell

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