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BrotherOfIron
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 21, 2000 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrotherOfIron   Click Here to Email BrotherOfIron     Edit/Delete Message
Not that I deceided to screw my fear of needles and get real gear, I'm looking for dosages for my cycle. I'm the best man in a wedding in VA Beach in June, and I wanna be big for the beach. I'm 6', 162 lbs with 6.1% BF. I want to start a Deca/Primo/Eq stack ASAP. Any suggestions on dosage and/or source?

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BrotherOfIron
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 21, 2000 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrotherOfIron   Click Here to Email BrotherOfIron     Edit/Delete Message
oops... that was supposed to start out

"Now that I decided..."

I just can't type today... Sorry, bros...

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KANE
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posted March 21, 2000 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KANE     Edit/Delete Message
My first question would be where did you come up with the deca/eq/primo stack. What are your goals? If this is a mass cycle add some test, You can get 2000mg of t-200 for about what 2 amps of primo will cost you.

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KANE

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mr_Blond
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posted March 21, 2000 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mr_Blond   Click Here to Email mr_Blond     Edit/Delete Message
Kane is right...Checkout this article at Qfac.com

"Dick & Jane's First Steroid"

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BrotherOfIron
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 21, 2000 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrotherOfIron   Click Here to Email BrotherOfIron     Edit/Delete Message
I want to put on as much mass as possible by June. I have no problems ripping up. I'm a hard gainer, and creatine and protein have brought me this far. I have sensitive skin too, but I'm on a derivative of tetracycline as a kind of preventive measure because I had mild acne in high school. Basically, I want to put on mass without breaking out too bad, and I was told that this would be a good first stack. But I haven't bought anything yet and I'm open if you have another suggestion.

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E2
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posted March 21, 2000 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Get some deca/sust/dbol/winny, great stack

sust deca dbol winny
750***400****5/day
500***400****5
500***400****5
500***400****5
500***400****5
500***400*********3cc eod
500***300*********3cc
250***200*********3cc
******************3cc
******************3cc
******************2cc
clomid eod thru cycle, then clomid 100mg/day 2 weeks starting 1 week after your last sust shot, then clomid 50mg./day 2 more weeks

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E2
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posted March 21, 2000 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Actually when i think about it, considering your weight you may want to drop the sust by 250 a week the deca by 100mg/week the dbol by 1tb/day

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MP5
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posted March 21, 2000 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MP5     Edit/Delete Message
yeah, you definatley need to throw in an adrogen of some sort. That eq, deca, and primo is not a good stack. Why do all the newbies try and get "big" off one cycle? It is not that easy.

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BrotherOfIron
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posted March 21, 2000 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrotherOfIron   Click Here to Email BrotherOfIron     Edit/Delete Message
MP5 - It's not that I expect to gain 50 lbs or anything. I just want to get as big as I possibly can in that one cycle and go from there. I'm not afraid of heavy weights or high intensity, and I just want to crush this plateau that I seem to have hit.

E2 - would the stack look like this? When I'm in the 8th week, should I go from 250 in the sust to none, or stick with the 250?

sust deca dbol winny
500***400****5/day
250***400****5
250***400****5
250***400****5
250***400****5
250***400*********3cc eod
250***300*********3cc
250***200*********3cc (here's my ?)
******************3cc
******************3cc
******************2cc

Thanks...
Iron

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BrotherOfIron
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 21, 2000 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrotherOfIron   Click Here to Email BrotherOfIron     Edit/Delete Message
E2 - shit, I'm computer illiterate today... it's...

sust deca dbol winny
500***300****4/day
250***300****4
250***300****4
250***300****4
250***300****4
250***200*********3cc eod
250***200*********3cc
250***100*********3cc (here's my ?)
******************3cc
******************3cc
******************2cc

Thanks...
Iron

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Socrates
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 21, 2000 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Socrates   Click Here to Email Socrates     Edit/Delete Message
Before you do anything read the article suggested above, at QFAC.

If the late Duchaine's pleadings(TEST ONLY FOR FIRST CYCLES @ 600-1000mg a week) speak to you follow as he suggested, regardless of what you hear elsewhere.

Its what I'm going to do.

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Socrates

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Socrates
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posted March 21, 2000 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Socrates   Click Here to Email Socrates     Edit/Delete Message
As in all things, rarely can we be an expert in all our interests and activities. This means the ability to decipher between contradictory information is probably one of the most valuable tools we can have in life.
That said, the question then becomes, "who to listen to."

Personally, what I found so interesting regarding the Duchaine article, is his continued reference to the golden oppurtunity a first cycle is.

Get everything you can out of that first cycle; EVERYTHING!

You will find many guys who have cycled for years, hope to gain 10-15 pounds a cycle. However whenever they comment regarding their first cycle, its usually with a nostalgic tone(20-35#gains are not unrealistic). Especially if they hit those poor little virgin receptors hard right off the bat.

BTW Unfortunately Duchaine died before completing the article. ;(
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Socrates

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BrotherOfIron
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posted March 21, 2000 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrotherOfIron   Click Here to Email BrotherOfIron     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone have a link for the Dick and Jane article? Maybe I'm just blonde, but I can't seem to find it on qfac.com.

Iron

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mr_Blond
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posted March 21, 2000 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mr_Blond   Click Here to Email mr_Blond     Edit/Delete Message
go to Danarchy

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BrotherOfIron
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 21, 2000 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrotherOfIron   Click Here to Email BrotherOfIron     Edit/Delete Message
i found it right before you posted that... i am an ass... but thanks, bro...

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THESAINT
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 21, 2000 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
ONE THING THE BROS HAVEN'T MENTIONED
IS YOUR USE OF TETRACYCLINE.
TETRACYCLINE IS A BROAD SPECTRUM ANTIBIOTIC.
IT DOESN'T GO WELL WITH STEROIDS BECAUSE
IT WORKS PRIMARILY BY INHIBITING PROTEIN
SYNTHESIS WHICH IS ANTI-ANABOLIC. IF
CONSTANT SHOWERING DOESN'T HELP. TRY
RETIN-A OR ACCUTANE.

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rocky
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posted March 21, 2000 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rocky     Edit/Delete Message
I would advise against the Accutane. I was on for a few months and my skin and lips dried up so much I had to carry lotion with me everywhere. I went.

And you have to be careful with sun exposure, because your so much more susceptible to burns.

It's not so great when your on gear as well.

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BrotherOfIron
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posted March 21, 2000 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrotherOfIron   Click Here to Email BrotherOfIron     Edit/Delete Message
I was on Accutane at one point, and I vowed never to be on that shit again. You're right though, Saint, tetra does mess with protein synthesis. It never occurred to me that maybe it's one of the reasons my gains have plateaued. My gains really slowed down about the time I went on tetra too...

Iron

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THESAINT
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 22, 2000 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
GLAD I COULD HELP. THE RETIN-A COULD ALSO
CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH DRY SKIN AND THE SUN.
TRY OVER THE COUNTER TOPICAL AGENTS FIRST.
OXY 10 ETC.

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big_guy1
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 22, 2000 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_guy1   Click Here to Email big_guy1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5126477
agreed with E2..make sure to use clomid, keep nolva on hand just in case...is this a frist cycle?? if so testo alone might be good enough..remeber..keep it simple...

big-guy

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