posted March 20, 2000 06:53 PM            

---

why do people lose their gains over time. is it because their body doesn't produce enough natural test to keep in a positive nitrogen balance? if so then what about doing one of these things for life to keep test levels high.

1. take clomid on and off. it might rise test levels high enough to keep your gains permanently

2. take prohormones. They will also raise test levels, although not too high.

3. take 20 mg dianabol a day. take 10 mg when you wake up and 10 mg 4 hours later. it will have an anabolic & anti-catabolic effect

anyway, wouldn't doing any of these things for life help you keep your gains forever. they should produce a positive nitrogen balance without having any bad side effects. as long as you do them responsibly.

IP: Logged

posted March 20, 2000 06:56 PM            

---

I wish I just had the money to take test every day! heh,heh. Good question, I just don't have a dam clue?

------------------
Don't just dream you dreams, live them!
LOWE254

IP: Logged

posted March 21, 2000 12:05 AM            

---

taking 10-20 mg dianabol a day or taking prohormones might keep test levels high enough to keep you in a positive/neutral nitrogen balance. instead of losing your gains over 5-10 years you can keep them indefinately.

IP: Logged

posted March 21, 2000 12:15 AM            

---

Sounds good but how long can you keep taking the d-bol for? Not forever.

------------------
"We may not be liven in a perfect world, but your lookin at a perfect body... your lookin at a, Genetic Freak"

IP: Logged

posted March 21, 2000 12:20 AM            

---

im pretty sure that if you only take 2-4 pills a day that you can take it indefinately. it probably wouldn't be extremely hard on the body, but i would look more into the situation. it might have bad effects after 10 years or so.

if you can't use dianabol, you can just supplement a few prohormones a day. that might boost test a little.

IP: Logged

posted March 21, 2000 11:33 AM         

---

I have been investigating that for a while now:
Clomid,
Zinc, Magnesium
Tribulus,
Acetyl-L-Carnitine before w/o (preserves test under stress)
Ephedrine,
Avena Sativa,
Vit. E
Vit. C,
Creatine (gotta have the pump too)
Flax seed meal and soy isoflavones as additional anti-estrogens.
Mu phylosophy is to stay with supp's when off for a long time, more reliable source.

IP: Logged

posted March 21, 2000 11:34 AM         

---

And lots of whey with glutamine, high glycemic drink after w/o, and lots of water in general

IP: Logged

All times are ET (US)