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Author Topic:   whats the strongest substance a 17 year old could take?
earl coles
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 20, 2000 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for earl coles     Edit/Delete Message
I am dead serious,.... i know what it takes to get big, im just in a hurry, and willing to take something that nearly suits my age, in other words , taking something that is strong enough but safe with little side effects..foot ball season is coming up, i need to get big quick in a matter of 5 months....my matablism is to fast to get big quick..i eat 6,000 calories, gained 30 lbs in month,,,...now its been 3rd month since eating 6,000 calories now im gaining very slowly now about 4 lbs every month...im looking for a good edge...3 max muscle owners say i should take prhormones, because it will be safe for me, and im already big to be worried about it...they say its not like im a skinny kid, 5 9" 120 lbs...no im big for my age..6 1" 205 with 7 % bf....i know about creatine, and its water gain..but i can take that on my off cycle of the edge type substance...........what should i take that will make quick gains, i know its going to get me where i want QUICK!!!.. but strong enough to make unusually fast enough gains..thanx

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WCP
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 20, 2000 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
Bro,
At 17 you have the most potent thing running strong in your system now...your own testosterone.
Sounds to me like your making nice gains naturally..and you can expect to keep making those for some time beyond 17.
Be pateint Bro...its not like your tiny from what your saying..
Just keep eating..keep training..and GROW.
Thats my .02
Later,
WCP

PS at your age the prohormones at higher levels of dosage would probably do you some good.

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AZQuadz
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 20, 2000 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AZQuadz   Click Here to Email AZQuadz     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54353319
At 17 just lift, eat & sleep. Read everything you can get your hands to educate yourself. Keep watching this board and by the time you are in your twenties you'll be ready.

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AHKA
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 20, 2000 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AHKA     Edit/Delete Message
CREATINE

dont use roids only after 21 yo

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BuffEnuf
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 20, 2000 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BuffEnuf   Click Here to Email BuffEnuf     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 63015976
Bro you need to up your calories. If this is you 3rd month on the 6000 calories diet, and the first month you put on 30lbs, and another 4 the 2nd month, thats 34lbs for the 2 months. Your comsuming the same amount of calories at 205lbs as you were when you weighed 180lbs. Thats what you saying anyways. So if this is the case, add some calories and you'll keep growing.

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BIG RICK ROCK
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 20, 2000 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG RICK ROCK     Edit/Delete Message
Well from the sounds of it you are looking to get big quickly, but I realy question your motives if I'm correct you are still in high school and Football season in high school starts around September...
plus if you weigh 201 lbs then what are you worried about, my high school's team where sec 1 champions and the average weight of the overall team was like 210 lbs only like 7 guys in the team out of 26 where over 210 lbs the starting Wide Receiver was only like 150 and the starting Runner Back ((an all American, and N.Y state #1 high school draft pic)) was only like 210 lbs and that guy is going to Syracuse Univ on a Full Ride, you still got enough time to gain some real quality weight, if you get pumped up on roids now:: you are gonna regret it later, you'll hurt your self much worst in the long run, it is talent that makes a good player not just mass, get down to basics and bust your ass in the gym thats all you need.
Hope it helps!!!!!!

[This message has been edited by BIG RICK ROCK (edited March 20, 2000).]

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xrciseink
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 20, 2000 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for xrciseink     Edit/Delete Message
I would'nt recommend any teenager to use steroids, but if you must.....Oxyandrolone (Oxandren in US), and primabolan...neither these steroids will stunt your growth, and they will give you all the results you will need at your age. Personally I would create your foundation naturally, because your natural gains will help create better results when the time comes to take the step. I would'nt recommend you taking anything at this time.

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studcj
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posted March 20, 2000 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
5x4=20lbs
You will weigh about 225-230 going into the season. Thats not bad if your a LB or FB.
E-me and I will send you a kick ass diet that will put on more than 4lbs a month for you.
[email protected]

what position do you play anyway?
What is your workout schedule like?'
Just remember that weight doesn't mean shit if you can't move around well
.run..run..run..run..run..run.......
Its not always about the size either. What kind of strength do you have? My Junior year I was only 5'9 215 lbs and I got all-conference,all-region, at OFFENSIVE LINE. The thing that helped me was that I squatted over 5 bills, and cleaned over 300. I also ran a 4.8 40 which was pretty fast for a fat guy. So it's not always about the size. Concentrate on your strength and speed. Once you get on a good diet you will explode if you are training properly. You have to change your diet up every now and then.my two cents

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A-mass
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posted March 20, 2000 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
Since nobody brought it up

NO, don't take the prohormones.

They are a waste of good cash.

Wait at least until 18 before you start the AS.

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LOWE254
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posted March 20, 2000 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LOWE254   Click Here to Email LOWE254     Edit/Delete Message
Nothing, wait until you atleast 20!

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LOWE254

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MentalBlock
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posted March 20, 2000 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MentalBlock   Click Here to Email MentalBlock     Edit/Delete Message
Wait till you at least 21

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phiend
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 20, 2000 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for phiend   Click Here to Email phiend     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 63040172
Take some anabolic juice, rather than androgenic. I started at your age. I am fine now, but I do wish that I waited. Once you start (especially at 17), your stuck. I have never know anyone to make it a one time thing. If you have to, use deca, EQ, or Primo at moderate doses. Stay off the test or d-bol 'til you fully developed.

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jettstream
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 20, 2000 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jettstream   Click Here to Email jettstream     Edit/Delete Message
take creatine, man when i was 18 i saw some spectacular gains from creatine and a high calorie diet. just keep hydrated and work out hard...then even harder..

jeTT

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Painkiller
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 20, 2000 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Painkiller   Click Here to Email Painkiller     Edit/Delete Message
You can take everything, 50 anadrol a day, but I wouldn't recomend it! Stick with creatine and protein!

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the mechanic
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posted March 20, 2000 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the mechanic   Click Here to Email the mechanic     Edit/Delete Message
Kid, at 17 the strongest thing you should be on right now should be Clearisil ! Slow down, enjoy being a teenager.

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LittleSavage34
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posted March 20, 2000 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LittleSavage34   Click Here to Email LittleSavage34     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 51221561
Take some time and learn about gear first, then, when you're really ready, you will be far ahead of everyone else. Stick with high protein intake, and take creatine, glutamine, aminos, stuff like that. Learn EVERYTHING you can about body building and supplements, and impress your friends, as well as yourself.

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Mr. T
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 20, 2000 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. T     Edit/Delete Message
Listen to the fellas, they know what they are talking about. You are too young. Even prohormones could screw up the natural river flow of tes. at that age. Be patient and wait until your 20's-

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scourge1
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 20, 2000 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scourge1   Click Here to Email scourge1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 2877127
I wouldn't tell you that AS is right for you at your age. Your gains sound solid enough. So long as your progressing, I'd look to diet as the key to maximizing your gains.
Most teenage males have more test than they can use, so simply try to tap into that supply while it's there naturally.
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This portion of the reply is really aimed at all the replies to this question.

If some crusty old jock were to call me kid or tell me I should be cycling clearasil (as funny as that was), I'd be even more prone to juice up just to show those farts how its done.

So when younger guys come on here and want to know when they should start, lets try to treat them fairly and try to recall our younger days when we needed info like this.

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Deepsquat
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 20, 2000 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deepsquat   Click Here to Email Deepsquat     Edit/Delete Message
Asprin

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grosso
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 21, 2000 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for grosso     Edit/Delete Message
Just eat and sleep well bro , a lot of proteins and carbs. Eat each 2 hours. And use creatine of course. That's all. For the rest , you can wait some years. For A-Mass , as I said in another post , just give your own experience on supplements , do not give generic ones : prohormones worked really good for me for example , you know each person is different , and a supplement that for you is shit , can be really good for me. So it's not the case to say that prohormones are a waste of money and real shit for everybody.

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