posted March 19, 2000 09:08 PM         

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OK, I'm in my fourth week of 500 mgs of Sust......I gained 7 lbs after the first 2 weeks or so....since then I have lost 2 lbs. The shots don't hurt nymore...no soreness, nothing. Like I didn't even inject at all! Maybe I am not eating enough, i don't know. I have verified the pics of my amps with some people here, and they seem to be real. I'm hoping when I start the primo in two week some gains will kick in....pretty depressing.

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posted March 19, 2000 09:17 PM            

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Wait until your 5th week before you make any decisive decisions about the legitimacy of your gear. You should be ingesting at least 5000 calories a day. If you are not then you are missing out of most of your gains. You should be getting around 2g of protein per pound of body weight, too.

Jon

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posted March 19, 2000 09:22 PM         

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2thick-
OK, maybe I am jumping the gun, but I guess I had different expectations. Then again, I am not stacking it with anything - except primo starting after week 6.
What do you take for added protein to your diet,? I try to eat one of those protein bars every day, but they are pretty disgusting....and I feel so full after eating one. Plus, only 24 grams of protein....
D.

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posted March 19, 2000 09:40 PM            

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I eat at least 5 cans of tuna a day. It tastes like crap but it has tons of protein. I also drink 3 protein shakes a day. This is all in conjunction with my 5 regular meals and 3 snacks per day. With all of that I drink 2 gallons of water and use creatine in 4-week cycles.

Diet is 70% of all growth during a cycle!!!! Gear only helps as a catalyst to absorb and utilize more of the calories you ingest.

Jon

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posted March 19, 2000 09:47 PM         

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Thanks again 2thick....
I DEFINITELY have to be alot more concerned with my diet. It is pretty important. But I guess I never could be bothered counting calories and such. I hope I haven't screwed up my cycle by not eating properly.
Still have 6 or 7 weeks to go, though. (I'm opening a can of tuna now).
D.

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posted March 20, 2000 01:43 AM            

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What sust are you using? Sure it is real?

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posted March 20, 2000 02:01 AM         

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ya man food is VERY important.
i eat at least 6000 calories per day and about 400g/protien mostly from whey and beef.
dont sweat where you get the calories just get em. eat like a pig, sleep alot, train and eat some more.

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posted March 20, 2000 03:41 AM            

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Try "Pure Protein" bars- Strawberry Shortcake, Chocolate Chip, Peanut Butter, etc....they all taste very good....any MetRX bars though- SUCK!!! Stick to the Pure Protein and youll enjoy em! Plus they have 32-26Gs of Protein depending on the flavor.

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posted March 20, 2000 09:14 AM         

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I THOUGHT U WERE TAKING NILES. IF U ARE DON'T EXPECT ANY GAINS RIGHT NOW. I AM TAKING THE EXACT ONES U ARE TAKING. I HAVE STRENGTH, MORE DEFINED MUSCLES. THIS IS MY 4 WEEK ALSO.

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posted March 20, 2000 09:16 AM         

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BigQuads....There is a picture of my sust amps in my post titled "Here's a pic of my sust amps"...I bumped it so you can look at them. I'm pretty sure they are real.

D.

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posted March 20, 2000 11:01 AM         

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I would take the whole cycle before jumping the gun. Strangely enough, I saw my best gains in the last three weeks of my sus. cycle. Hang in there-

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posted March 20, 2000 03:48 PM         

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2Thick or anybody with a diet like him,
How do you eat that much in a day? How often do you eat? How much at one time?

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posted March 20, 2000 03:56 PM         

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Dude, you need a helluva lot more protein when on gear. I try to drink some whey protein about every 3 hours while I am awake (40 grams) and I will snack on those Labrada lean body bars ( 30grams peanut butter & jelly are the best tasting bars I have ever had)

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posted March 20, 2000 07:24 PM            

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Dont rule out your sus. you will not really start to notice anything until around your 4th week. diet is a very big deal .without a good diet you wont grow. signs to notice of bad diet can be weight loss, tiredness, longer revcovery. thats just a few i have noticed, until i adjusted my diet . i am on a sus only cycle at 500mg every 4 days. some say to take dbol the first 4 weeks so you will mnotice gains in the start of your cycle. my next cycle i will stack . so i will get better gains. live and learn from your cycles, and head advice from those that have been there.. take in 2 grams protein per pound of body weight and eat eat eat..

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posted March 20, 2000 08:10 PM            

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2Thick, doesn't all of that tuna give you the farts. When I eat tuna, I have the worst smelling gas you could imagine. And I think I am immune to Gas-X.

androx

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posted March 20, 2000 09:39 PM         

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How/where are you injecting? Should be OK, but maybe you're not squirting into muscle. And eat eat EAT. And make sure you still get plenty of rest, don't overtrain just cos you're on gear. IronMike

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posted March 20, 2000 09:54 PM         

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I am injecting in my ass......I am sticking the needle all the way in, I'm pretty sure I am hitting the muscle.

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posted March 20, 2000 10:15 PM            

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In my " perfect world ", to be a bodybuilder you must first put in your hours, like an apprentice has to do to be a journeyman. You would have to first learn to train properly. Second, you would have to learn proper nutrition, the do`s and dont`s to grow. And finially last, after you have mastered everything, you would be allowed to experience the glory of gear.
So many times I see youngsters getting the gear, but have no clue what it is or how to use it correctly.

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posted March 20, 2000 10:19 PM         

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I am 29 years old....been training for over 12 years...hard. i know I have to work on my nutrition though. This is my first cycle.

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