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stu white
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posted March 19, 2000 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stu white     Edit/Delete Message
I was fixing to start a cycle of sus250, and my buddy told me of something called omnadren. He said that the gains in weight/mass were the same. I have never heard of omnadren and am curious if what he says is true. If anyone has tried omnadren or knows anything about it any and all info would be appreciated.

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E2
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posted March 19, 2000 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
omnadren is sust250

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Anabolicum Mister
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posted March 19, 2000 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anabolicum Mister   Click Here to Email Anabolicum Mister     Edit/Delete Message
E2 is right as usual.

Omnadren contains the same testosterone blend as sustanon (propionate, phenylpropionate, isocaproate, and decanoate)and in the same quantities. As far as effect goes, there should be no real difference between the two.

Omnadren is made in Poland by a company called Jelfa. Sustanon is usually made in various countries by a company called Organon. That should be the only difference unless....

...the Omna is a few years old. The old Omna contained a different blend of esters that apparently had more negative side effects than the new omna or sustanon.

Also, you can usually get Omna a little cheaper than Sust.

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Cannonball
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posted March 19, 2000 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cannonball   Click Here to Email Cannonball     Edit/Delete Message
Wholly shit...Omnadren is sust?!?!?! So if they are the same and approximately the same dosage, then why not just buy the cheaper one ~ Omnadren and stack with that?

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Cannonball
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posted March 19, 2000 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cannonball   Click Here to Email Cannonball     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP...for answer from E2

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Mr H
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posted March 20, 2000 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr H   Click Here to Email Mr H     Edit/Delete Message
Damn, the old Omna....my friend took it- his face looked like he went 12 rounds with Roy Jones Jr.


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E2
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posted March 20, 2000 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Lots of people do use omna instead of sust, and it works well, however mos people i know say that the jelfa omna is a little weaker, whether this is true or not or jsut a mental thing, i don't know. I tend to think it's just a mental thing

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tilt
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posted March 20, 2000 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tilt   Click Here to Email tilt     Edit/Delete Message
Omnadren is not the same as sust-250. Sust-250 has a decanoate ester so it will hang around in the system much lomger. sust-100 is the same as omnadren it does not have the decanoate ester. Not a big deal for most.

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coolhandluke
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posted March 20, 2000 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
TILT:

OMNADREN 250= SUSTANON 250

TRUST ME, I KNOW

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Dexter
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posted March 20, 2000 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message
coolhandluke, thanks to your advice and that of others, I have understood that Omnadren and Sustanon now have the same mix of testosterones.

However, I have seen hundreds of Omnadren ampules lately, and not ONE SINGLE "new" Omnadren. It's all the old formula. Which causes me to think there is still a lot of the old Omnadren floating around.

Not that there's a big difference between the old Omnadren and Sustanon, if I understand Animal's article correctly.

Nevertheless, since I have yet to see any of the new Omnadren, hearing the same old "Omna = Sust" line starts to feel uncomfortable. Moreover, if the person possesses the old formula, then "Omna = Sust" is just plain incorrect.

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coolhandluke
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posted March 20, 2000 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
Dexter,

The truth is that jelfa changed the formula quite a while back. How do these 'old omnas' look? Maybe you are wrong and mistook them for the new ones???


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Dexter
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posted March 20, 2000 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message
You could be right, Luke. I don't have an amp in front of me, but I do distinctly remember the box (the old blue and light grey one), with the old ingredients listed on the back. And as I recall on one of the amps, the expiration date was 05/2001.

Any idea what the shelf life of the old Omnadren is?

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coolhandluke
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posted March 20, 2000 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
well, i just picked up a few boxes at the pharmacy today (i live in poland) and the experation date is 06.2002. So, i guess yours are a year old. To tell you the truth i have never seen the blue boxes, supposedly they are for export to russia and the post-ussr countries. I have no idea. They could be repackaged in the states. The difference between the old and new omnas is that the old ones had silk screen writing on the amps and the new ones have a paper label. Oftentimes newbies make the mistake of thinking that test caprinicum is different from decoanate. They are in fact the same esters.


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Dexter
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posted March 20, 2000 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message
Damn, Luke, I think you're correct. I clearly recall the paper labels on the amps. And, when I rubbed the expiration date with my finger, the ink started to smear. Thanks.

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the truth
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posted March 21, 2000 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth     Edit/Delete Message
Luke, there are quite a few of the old ones floating around. They were a really good deal, so I couldn't afford to pass them up, even with a few restenciled fakes thrown in.
BTW, you were right, the fakes were enanthate (100mg). I weeded them out and threw them in before the end of my last cycle.

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