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CB38AC
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posted March 18, 2000 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
Freind I know say when they go on gera they loose fat even on a pretty high calorie diet. I am going to start my first cycle soon of A-50, test cyp. and token amounts of winstrol (8amps) and primo (just 2). Just wondering if on a moderate diet with high protien could I gain muscle and loose fat. Would cytnomle help for one week use in the middle of the cycle?I am not going on to loose fat just wondering if it to be expected as people I know who have used gear before say that when they go on they loose fat and gain muscle without changing thier diet much.
Going on a trip to the bahamas on week 5 of a 6 or 7 week cycle and hope to drop my bodyfat about 5 percent in 4 weeks while gaining muscle (hopefully 15 pounds. This is my first cycle and it will probably look like this:
CLOMID 50mg ED duration (to be safe)

Week1:a-50/50md ED. Test cyp./600mg
Week2:same + winny EOD
Week3:same as week 2
Week4: test cyp/800mg
Week5: (Spring break!) test cyp/600mg (butandiol instead of alchohol)
Week6:Test cyp/600mg
Week7: clomid/100mg ED +200mg primo/wk
Week8:clomid/100mg ED
week9:clomid/50mg ED

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FLoridaFLexRx
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posted March 18, 2000 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLoridaFLexRx   Click Here to Email FLoridaFLexRx     Edit/Delete Message
wait until after spring break to start your cycle...maximize gains on cycle. unless there is a gym where you are going

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A-mass
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posted March 18, 2000 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
think about maybe increasing the length of the cycle [test in specific] and using some d-bol to slowly come off the abombs. doing both of these I think will help to keep the gains from the a50

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CB38AC
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posted March 18, 2000 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
Cant wait till efter break and can't get D-bol or I wouldn't even be using the A-bombs. Part of the reason I decided to do my first cycle was for the trip so there is no point in me doing it if i am going to wait

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A-mass
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posted March 18, 2000 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
Alright if it is just for looking ripped for spring break and bringing in the ladies, then I guess it is a good choice. Make sure to keep taking clomid every day 50mg or you may get really bloated from the water retension A50 and that is not what you want for spring break.

If it just the awesome look you want, why not try a fina cycle? People say you will get hard as hell on that stuff, and it would be much cheaper than what you're proposing... unless you already have the gear.

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CB38AC
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posted March 18, 2000 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
I already have most of it but I still need to get 11 amp of test cyp at 200mg/ml which will cost me 110. Got clomid cheap too. My main concern with fina is that I just can't seem to find enough good info on it. Some say its great some say it sucks, some say inject some say DMSO. I just think there is not enough known about it at this time.

My reason for this cycle is I need both muscle gain and fat loss (185 5'11 with moderate/highish bodyfat)

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CB38AC
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posted March 19, 2000 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
Ok if i were going to add fina how would I do this how about dropping the test dosage and injesting 75mg every other day

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A-mass
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posted March 19, 2000 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
perhaps think about doing Fina alone for 5 weeks or whatever until your spring break, then saving the other stuff for another cycle to start at the beginning of june or something? But like I said, the AS you have picked right now, you will put on a lot of mass but you'll also look a little puffy. you are right about differing opinions on fina though... for some people it works wonders and others it is garbage, cow roids.

if you take the fina alone, though you won't really put on mass, just get leaner and harder. so go with what you have posted... and try to find away to add some d-bol in week 4 and on if you want fina in what you already have, start taking it week 4 at a high dose and then taper down. Basically you need something to help you come down slowly off the abombs.... and make it longer.

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CB38AC
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posted March 19, 2000 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
how about this:
Clomid for duration 50mg ED

Week1: A-50/50ed(split dose) + test cyp/400mg/wk + 200mg winny

Week2:same

Week3:test cyp/800mg +fina 75mg ED
Week4:test cyp/800mg +fina 75mg EOD
Week5:test cyp/600mg +fana 75mg EOD(spring break is week 5)

Week6:A-50/25mg/ED + 400mg test cyp
Week7:test cyp/600mg + fina 75 mg ED
Week8: fina 75mg EOD
Week9: fina 40mg EOD
Week10:primo/200mg (start clomid treatment)

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CB38AC
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posted March 19, 2000 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
any other ideas anyone

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