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WCP
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posted March 18, 2000 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
I was curious as to why clomid is the choice of almost all Bros over nolvadex? Can someone explain to me what the major differences are, if they are both anti-estrogen agents. I am using clomid on my cycle but just for my personal knowledge would like to know the major differences.
Thanx Bros.
WCP


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THESAINT
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posted March 18, 2000 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
It's my understanding clomid is a mild anti-
estogen but mainly is used to kick
natural testosterone production back in.
Nolvadex is just an anti-estrogen.

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WCP
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posted March 18, 2000 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
Ok seems like a pretty igit like question but I was going through the archives tonight and I only saw a few posts on nolvadex, but nothing went into great detail.
Thanx again...
This in one learnin' Bro over here...
WCP

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WCP
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posted March 18, 2000 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
Ah I see...so nolvadex doesnt give the same "jumpstart" to your natural test production as clomid...interesting..
Thanx Bro,
WCP

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The Ranger
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posted March 18, 2000 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
Check icq e-mail Bro.....answered ya there!!

Ranger

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Dexter
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 18, 2000 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message
Well, WCP, I for one found your questions interesting and was hoping to see some informative answers. Here. On the board.

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DianaBallBusta
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posted March 18, 2000 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DianaBallBusta   Click Here to Email DianaBallBusta     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 65057870
Clomid causes an elevation in LH (luteinizing hormone) which results in an increase in natural test production. This prevents a crash at the end of a cycle.

Nolvadex works by competitively binding to target estrogen sites. It prevents the effects of abnormally high estrogen levels in the body...which are gyno, female fat distribution, and edema.

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MC
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posted March 18, 2000 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC   Click Here to Email MC     Edit/Delete Message
From what I have gathered from this board so far Clomid taken throughout your cycle keeps your natural test levels up by fooling your body into normal test production despite the presence of surplus extraneous test from the gear.

It works by blocking the estrogen receptor sites.

Nolvadex appears to be used when symptoms of Gyno are first noticed, i.e itchy swollen nipples.

I do not state these as facts, I am just repeating opinions I have seen.

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deltman
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posted March 18, 2000 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deltman   Click Here to Email deltman     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting POST!!!!! Excellent responses!

deltman

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WCP
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posted March 18, 2000 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
Thanx Bros...
Big Help..

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THESAINT
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posted March 18, 2000 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
I JUST PUT MY FIRST POST IN LAYMANS
TERMS, BUT DAMN BROS, I SEE WE HAVE SOME
INTELLIGENT INDIVIDUALS ON THIS BOARD.
DIANABALLBUSTA IS RIGHT. CLOMID IS A
SYNTHETIC ESTROGEN, IT CAN BE USED BOTH
AS AN ANTI-ESTROGEN AND A GONADOTROPHIC
STIMULANT.NOLVADEX WORKS BY COMPETITIVELY
BINDING TO TARGET ESTROGEN SITES.

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FLoridaFLexRx
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posted March 18, 2000 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLoridaFLexRx   Click Here to Email FLoridaFLexRx     Edit/Delete Message
So in short, Take clomid eod during the cycle and if you start seeing signs of gyno..itchy, burning nips...take some nolvadex. Have both in the med cabinet!

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E2
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posted March 18, 2000 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
The main reason why most people use clomid have been laid out by the other bros. Novaldex actually specifically targets teh breats tissue, which is an addional bonus in trying to get rid of gyno, however novaldex will cut into your gains, so it's taken only whne necessary.


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