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Ronnie Wheelmier
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posted March 17, 2000 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronnie Wheelmier     Edit/Delete Message
Hi bro's,

From ironmanmagazine.com (source posted by brother Jocko in this thread):
https://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/005488.html

I see:

"IM: Race cars keep going faster and faster and there are more crashes, but the drivers keep doing it, right? What do you think your total drug bill is for the year?

BB: About $60,000, but it's going to be higher next year. Just this last year I had to add [blank]. Right now it's the number-one bodybuilding "supplement" in the competition ring. All these guys you see getting bigger, it's that. No question. Two years ago...I don't want to take nothing from [blank], really nice guy, nice family man, but physiquewise he was flat as a pancake. Now he's bigger, 20 to 30 pounds heavier. It's all [from this stuff]. [Blank] is heavy on it. Of course, we all are. I'm scared shitless."

I wonder what is it (number one "supplement"). Insulin?


Thanx and get BIG!


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cjac1
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 17, 2000 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cjac1   Click Here to Email cjac1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30896181
AS and HGH have been around for years. BB became freaks when insulin hit the arena. It changed my whole way of cycling. It also took me for a 172lbs middle weight to a 239lbs heavy weight. I don't think it could have happened without it. Just my take on it. cjac1

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The Ranger
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 17, 2000 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
I'm scared shitless of it!!

Ranger

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 17, 2000 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
insulin is cheap
IGF-1- now thats expensive but worth the money from what I have seen- guys who could make no gains before, even with huge amounts of gear, getting awesome results

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WCP
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 17, 2000 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
Ok...I keep hearing alot about insulin..but what would be the calculated risk of inducing diabetes from the use of insulin...I have heard alot on that particular risk of insulin use.
Curious,
WCP

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cjac1
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 18, 2000 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cjac1   Click Here to Email cjac1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30896181
IGF-1 it may have been in the interview. But, what I've seen over the years is a move to insulin. Yes, it cheaper and has about the same effect as IGF-1. Funny that IGF-1 stands for "Insulin Like Growth Factor One" Key words being "insulin like". I can remember where I saw it but, I'll look for it. It went something like this, diabetes is a genetic factor either you have it or not. Insulin use will not bring it about, even if you have the gene for it.

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Ronnie Wheelmier
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 18, 2000 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronnie Wheelmier     Edit/Delete Message
Once you become a pro then,
IGF-1 and insuline become a must? no other options?

Does anyone know if there are REAL cases of pro bb becoming diabetic on insulin use?

Thanx and Think Big, Get Big
RW

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Ronnie Wheelmier
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 18, 2000 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronnie Wheelmier     Edit/Delete Message
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MC
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posted March 18, 2000 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC   Click Here to Email MC     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68012015
BUMP

You don't see many posts about Insulin, you have to take a good load of shit with it to counteract some serious sides.

I am VERY curious about this as Insulin is easy to get in the UK.

cjac1 appears to be HUGE off it - I've seen the pics. He doesn't come off either - two years ON! Hardcore! - Respect to him!

Later

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A-mass
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 18, 2000 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
What are you talking about? A shitload of stuff to combat side effects for insulin?

The only effect is that there is more insulin in your blood. The only thing that can go wrong is hypoglycemia [blood sugar too low], and that is very easily counteracted by eating carbohydrates after your insulin shot. What COULD people possibly take other than eating carbohydrates?

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 18, 2000 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
well insulin does have a tendency to make you fat- everybody that I know that uses it also uses DNP on a regular basis.

BTW- an anecdotal report on IGF-1- a aquaintance of mine that has been using it recently got busted and was in jail for 2 weeks right toward the end of his cycle. This guy was a real hardgainer- but during this cycle with IGF and GH + a lot of gear, he had gained about 15lbs- which is at least 7lbs more than he would gain on atypical cycle of heavy gear alone. after 2 weeks of not working out and eating jail food he lost almost none of the size he had gained. I realize that this is anecdotal but the implications point toward IGF+GH+GEAR- is the path to larger more permanent gains.

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cjac1
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 18, 2000 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cjac1   Click Here to Email cjac1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30896181
Beside the need for carbs on insulin. You need T3/Clen and if you can afford it HGH. Most people don't know how to control carb intake enough to avoid fat gain. So you use the t3/clen to off set it. I've used both IGF-1 and insulin. All things considered I got about the same gains on both. Given that I stick to the much cheaper insulin.

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A-mass
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posted March 18, 2000 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
My point is that if you know your body well enough and stay on a pre-calculated diet down to the last crumb [specifically not overeating on carbs], insulin use won't have any side effect, not even fat gain. The only reason for this extra fat is because people eat more carbs than they need to replenish their muscles and energy supplies -- same reason people get fat who aren't using insulin shots. The insulin is not the cause here, it just helps make more fat.

I guess this is a side effect, but still you don't need to take anything to combat it.

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BIGBADFKR
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 19, 2000 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIGBADFKR     Edit/Delete Message
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