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WCP
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 17, 2000 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message
Ive been doing some research into halotestin for awhile now and gathering info on it, but some questions I have reamain unanswered.
No.1 Ive read that this drug can cause extreme aggressiveness, but it never goes into detail why.
No.2 Ive also read that it serves mostly as a hardner to already lean muscle, by what chemical reaction does this happen?
No.3 Ive read varied dosages of this product, can you bros agree on what is "normal"?
And No.4 Could this be a helpful agent for me as Im running a cutting diet after my sus cycle, Im going to use a 1 week on 1 week off clen cycle and eca inbetween, if so should the halo be kept out until fat loss is nearing a min.?
This should be all the info I need bros to finish my decision making about this product.
Thanx in advance for any help.
Bleed Iron Bros,
WCP

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ARM E MAN
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 17, 2000 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ARM E MAN   Click Here to Email ARM E MAN     Edit/Delete Message
I thought we figured out your cutting cycle!!

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E2
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posted March 17, 2000 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Makes you aggressive because it's very androgenic, the exact process through which that works, i don't know. Normal doses would be about 20-25mg/day. Will make you hard and is toxic to your body, most people won't take it for more than 4 weeks. I'd take it at the end of my cycle to help you harden up.

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WCP
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posted March 17, 2000 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message
Ok so I assume the toxic effect is on the liver correct? So would the normal liver protection agents i.e. milk thistle ect. work for this as well? So with it being very androgenic..and anti-estrogen would be in order correct? So if Im running 100mg of clomid week 1 and 50mg week 2 after my last injection, would this be functional with the halo?
Thanx for the input E2,
Later Bros,
WCP

P.S Arm E, stop giving away all my hardcore cutting secrets man...heh..heh..heh..

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E2
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posted March 17, 2000 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Anti estrogens are allways to be used, and yeah it's hard on the liver, take some protection, don't stick a condom on your liver like you're thiking, that won't help, i tried.


I would take the clomid at 50mg eod during the cycle, dont' forget that, and hit the 100mg/day and 50mg/.day weeks after


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WCP
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posted March 17, 2000 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message
Oh...great....
I only have enough clomid to run 25mg eod during my cycle...
I am curious though as to why with this being highly androgenic that it has a reputation of increasing hostility more than other androgens?
hmmmm?
Thanx again E2,
WCP

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted March 17, 2000 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Bro,

I have seen good hardness results with halo in just 4 weeks - agree with E2, should not be used longer than that.

It is very androgenic, but the amount of increase in aggression really depends on if you are usually very aggressive or whatever - if you are laid back it is not going to turn you psychotic, but you will definitely feel an increase in aggression in the gym.

Also, it made me VERY strong, with little weight gain, (25 mg a day) but when I went off, I lost most of the strength.

Good luck

Matt

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WCP
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posted March 17, 2000 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message
So if Ive already got the bodies of my last 10 training partners buried in my back yard, then this drug isnt for me...heh..heh..heh..
Its looking very probable Ill experiment with this...
Thanx Bros,..
WCP

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airtyme
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posted March 17, 2000 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for airtyme   Click Here to Email airtyme     Edit/Delete Message
What brand can be found in Mexico and what would the cost be?

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The Ranger
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posted March 17, 2000 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
Hey Bro,
MattskyW is right. It depends on your frame of mind. If your laid back....it'll be alright...it will give ya more intensity in the gym. If your the other way......well it got me into alot of trouble...hehehe !
Liver protection is a must....don't go over 25mg's! If you do this...stay away from that pencil-neck geek of a workout partner you have!!! Ha! Ha!

Ranger

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WCP
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posted March 17, 2000 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message
Pretty good advice Ranger...considering that his excuse for not showing up yesterday was that he was getting dressed and didnt have any clean socks...so he had to stay home and do laundry...
Your right..he would probably be body #11
Bleed Iron Bro,
WCP

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WCP
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posted March 17, 2000 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message
Ah...Ill bump this once to make sure I didnt miss anything....

KAWWWAAACK!

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 17, 2000 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
the reason for aggression is closely tied to its androgenic component- which is very strong. strong androgens stimulate the central nervous system- basically it jacks you up. many people find that this makes them irritable- usually these are the same people who become irritable when taking strong stimulants. I would say that jacked up and irritable combined with normal mood altering effect, enhancing masculine traits, of androgens can make people aggresive. a bouncer I knew called them his "mean pills"- he just took them before work- kind of a scary individual.

BTW- anyone here notice that when you take clomid it makes you emotional like a woman sometimes?

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