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FLoridaFLexRx
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posted March 16, 2000 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLoridaFLexRx   Click Here to Email FLoridaFLexRx     Edit/Delete Message
This may be a stupid question but I couldn't find an answer for it in the search:
What kind of testosterone is your bodys natural testoterone? Would taking clomid EOD during a sustenon cycle be like 5 different tests working? I am prepared to be flamed just go easy!

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2Thick
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posted March 16, 2000 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
Your body's own test does not directly correspond to any type of synthetic testosterone that you would find on the market.

If I am understanding you correctly, then you said just said that Clomid is a test. It is an anti-estrogen.

You should take Clomid EOD if you are prone to gyno or if you are using high dosages.

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coolhandluke
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posted March 16, 2000 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
your body make normal test. You can get tests+esters (enanthate,cyponate, etc) so the stay in you system for longer than test suspension. Whatever the ester, it is still test and has a 1/1 anabolic to androgenic ratio. Clomid is not a steroid, it merely keeps your nuts workin and prevents bitch tits.

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FLoridaFLexRx
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posted March 16, 2000 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLoridaFLexRx   Click Here to Email FLoridaFLexRx     Edit/Delete Message
I know CLomid isn't a steroid, I'm just trying to see if by taking it it will be releasing my natural test to work with the other tests. Does clomid help with the acne?

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Behemoth
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posted March 16, 2000 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Behemoth     Edit/Delete Message
Take HCG that makes yer nads grow big time!
Remember reading that Test' Suspension was a pretty similar molecular structure, but don't quote me on that.

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 16, 2000 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
TESTOSTERONE IS TESTOSTERONE

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE
TEST THAT YOU BODY PRODUCES AND THE SYNTHETIC
TEST THAT YOU INJECT.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SYNTHETIC TESTS ARE THEIR CARRIER MOLECULES-ESTERS- WHICH DETERMINE THEIR RELEASE PATTERN. ONCE THEY ARE RELEASED INTO THE BLOODSTREAM THEY ARE JUST TEST-SHEDDING THE CARRIER MOLECULE IS HOW THEY ARE RELEASED.

YOU BODY NATURALLY PRODUCES TEST FOR RELEASE INTO THE BLOOD STREAM IN A CYCLICAL MANNER- TEST IS CONSTANTLY RELEASED THOUGH THERE ARE SPIKES- IN THE MORNING IS ONE OF THOSE SPIKE TIMES- TYPICALLY.

ONCE AGAIN
TEST IS TEST

BTW-
TEST IS KING
LONG LIVE THE KING

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2Thick
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posted March 16, 2000 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
I definitely know that Macro is being payed to advertise Test. There could be no other explanation for his behavior.

Jon

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Behemoth
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posted March 16, 2000 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Behemoth     Edit/Delete Message
In the words of the imortal Beavis (of beavis and buthead) ........ 'you need to settle down !!!'

But your comments are appreciated.

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FLoridaFLexRx
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posted March 16, 2000 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLoridaFLexRx   Click Here to Email FLoridaFLexRx     Edit/Delete Message
macro tell me more about spike release time?
You are definilty the scientific guy.

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 16, 2000 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
TAKING TEST IS LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO MACDONALDS
CAUSE FOR JUST LITTLE MORE CASH IT CAN
SUPERSIZE YOUR GROWTH

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FLoridaFLexRx
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posted March 16, 2000 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLoridaFLexRx   Click Here to Email FLoridaFLexRx     Edit/Delete Message
Macro you are funny! Macrosize!

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2Thick
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posted March 16, 2000 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
Macro,

Now you're just getting cheesy!!!!

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 16, 2000 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
HORMONE SPIKES ARE A PART OF OUR BIOLOGICAL CLOCK OUR BODIES PRODUCE TEST AT CERTAIN TIMES AND IN RESPONSE TO CERTAIN EVENTS- APPARENTLY IN THE MORNING IS A TIME THAT OUR BODIES FEEL THAT INCREASED TEST LEVELS ARE NECESSARY PERHAPS TO PREPARE US FOR THE HUNT-REMEMBER THIS IS A SYSTEM THAT HAS DEVELOPED OVER MILLIONS OF YEARS- JUST BECUASE WE DONT HUNT FOR FOOD ANYMORE DOES NOT MEAN THAT OUR ENDOCRINE SYSTEM REALIZES THAT.

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FLoridaFLexRx
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posted March 16, 2000 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLoridaFLexRx   Click Here to Email FLoridaFLexRx     Edit/Delete Message
So what are you saying Dr. Macro? Get in the gym in the Morning? or after the morning(the hunt time)?

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 16, 2000 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
2THICK
I WAS JUST TRYING TO SHOW YOU WHY I AM A TESTOSTERONE ACTIVIST- THE SUPERSIZE/VALUE MEAL PHILOSOPHY-IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT- REALLY DOES APPLY

BTW- I THINK THAT EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO BE CHEESY. ONCE IN A WHILE

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FLoridaFLexRx
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posted March 16, 2000 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLoridaFLexRx   Click Here to Email FLoridaFLexRx     Edit/Delete Message
I guess it wasnt such a stupid question. because the two smartest pros on here are semi-debating over it. yous guys rule

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 17, 2000 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
well the question was not stupid, but 2thick and I were not debating- he just has Primo issues and is jealous of my TESTOSTERONE activism.hahaha

BTW- if I was getting paid- I would like those payments made in esterified test- okay maybe a little suspension

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FLoridaFLexRx
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posted March 17, 2000 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLoridaFLexRx   Click Here to Email FLoridaFLexRx     Edit/Delete Message
primo and test are totally different! like 15 lbs of muscle different

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big_guy1
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posted March 17, 2000 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_guy1   Click Here to Email big_guy1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5126477
agreed with macro....test is test..chemically the same, but diff esters

big-guy

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2Thick
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posted March 17, 2000 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
I am actually working out the perfect cycle. It will not include test, either. It will be backed up with hard facts and lots of theory.

I think it will make a lot of sense. I will tease you with this. You will gain 30-50 pounds a year without worrying about even the slightest side effects and you don't need anti-estros.

I will post it soon.

Jon

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100acrewoods
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posted March 17, 2000 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 100acrewoods   Click Here to Email 100acrewoods     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30177303
Obviously test is king. Otherwise, instead of having testes, you would have nandrolones hanging down there, or methenolones, or whatever your choice of drug is.

Testosterone is the male hormone responsible for male characteristics. That and cholesterol are the most important in anabolism.

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Dutch
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posted March 17, 2000 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dutch     Edit/Delete Message
Well 2Thick, i am very curious about that one...

Dutch

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THESAINT
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posted March 17, 2000 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
MACRO IS RIGHT TEST IS TEST ALTHOUGH
DIFFERENT INJ. TESTS ARE MOLECULARLY
ALTERED. MOST ANABOLIC STEROIDS ARE
MADE FROM MEXICAN SARSAPARILLA ROOT.

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 17, 2000 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
2thick
let me guess
igf-500mcg/day
gh- 16iu/day
insulin- subjective
epo-till blood pressure becomes compremised
primo 1g a day
deca 600mg/week- I know you dont want gyno
glucose/gh/amino iv
gene therapy- lets get that mystatin gene
daily viewing of "body of work"- hero worship
complete loss of sex drive-
means more time and focus on training
interesting.....

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2Thick
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posted March 17, 2000 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
I hate to crush your hopes of becoming a mind reader, but you aren't even close. Except for the Primo.

Wait and you shall receive...


Jon

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 17, 2000 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
I was just trying to come up with a realistic way to gain 50lbs a year given the parameters- plus talk a little smack- I cannot believe I did not get a response to the "body of work" comment.

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bignate73
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posted March 17, 2000 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bignate73   Click Here to Email bignate73     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 65081685
oooh....now im curious.....no gh, no insulin, but primo....hmmmmmmmm......and no antiestrogens...30-50lbs a year? with no antiestrogens? will i have 30lb boobs? j/k

im definitely waiting for this one....i could use a 30lb boost. Can this cycle shrink me about 2 inches as well?would love to be 220 @ 5 7... heh heh.
peace :P

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conan69
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posted March 17, 2000 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for conan69   Click Here to Email conan69     Edit/Delete Message
JON
i am interested in this cycle
i would love to hit the big 300 mark
cant wait to see the post

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FLoridaFLexRx
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posted March 17, 2000 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLoridaFLexRx   Click Here to Email FLoridaFLexRx     Edit/Delete Message
"Pumping Iron" is a much better motivational movie than "Body of Work"...Thats why they have to give "Body of WOrk away for free.

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airtyme
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posted March 17, 2000 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for airtyme   Click Here to Email airtyme     Edit/Delete Message
can't wait to hear it!

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egoman
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posted March 17, 2000 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for egoman   Click Here to Email egoman     Edit/Delete Message
ok 2THICK i hope this stuff works for us older guys too.

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2Thick
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posted March 18, 2000 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
That's going to be the beauty of the cycle. It will be safe as hell and highly effective (but it is more long-term). In fact, the cycle is year round.

Jon

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 18, 2000 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
when you say safe and highly effective- what is your basis for that determination? are ou using scientific evidence or anecdotal- or both.

BTW- 50lbs a year is totally unreasonable for anyone who has been working out long enough to be able to justify taking gear

BTW2- "twins" next cycle will include igf and growth maybe even a little insulin and pgf too- and of course- lots of TEST.

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2Thick
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posted March 18, 2000 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
Macro,

I said 30-50. That means anywhere between 30 and 50.

I will only use scientifically based information, because I do not trust antidotal information.

RE: BTW2= Are you going to use any gear with that growth cycle?

Jon

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BIGBADFKR
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posted March 19, 2000 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIGBADFKR     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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Cannonball
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posted March 19, 2000 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cannonball   Click Here to Email Cannonball     Edit/Delete Message
I think that we will all be anxiously awaiting the cycle posting from you 2THICK, our trusted bro...

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