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maxes21 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30)	posted March 16, 2000 07:22 PM ok im 5"11 160lbs this will be my first cycle and im only looking to gain about 15 to 25lbs.now im going to be taking an oral and injectable. ok here are my 2 options: im going to definitly take winstrol tabs at about 10mg a day.which injectable would be best with the winny.boldone-(equipoise), sustanon 250,primobolan,or deca,remember im looking to gain about 15 to 25lbs and im looking for the least amount of side affects like gyno or any other skin rashes. or im going to take andriol instead of the winny,but still with an injectable. ps:im looking for less side affect/less gains rather than more side affects/more gains. thank you all for helping me out IP: Logged
coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 320)	posted March 16, 2000 07:27 PM screw both options and get on omnadren/sustanon for 8-12 weeks. If you take clomid eod you will experience zero sides, well, maybe soem acne but i've never had a problem with it... IP: Logged
FLoridaFLexRx Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 119)	posted March 16, 2000 07:34 PM If you already have the winny, go with some deca and sustenon. You'll gain 25lbs easily. If you're looking to play it safe and spend some bucks go with Deca/Primo/winny you'll easily put on 15 and be safe. you should be safe with the sus250/deca if you pop a 50mg of clomid E.O.D. and everydaypost cycle for a week. IP: Logged
FLoridaFLexRx Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 119)	posted March 16, 2000 07:40 PM p.s. If you dont want any side why are you taking winstrol tabs. they go through youre liver bigtime IP: Logged
maxes21 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30)	posted March 16, 2000 08:07 PM hey thanks for the advice i really want to take winny but screw that im just going to take 1 injectable which would be safest deca,sustanon,or equipoise. IP: Logged
cjac1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 155)	posted March 16, 2000 08:29 PM If your going to use gear get use to the idea that none of it is really safe. It effects everyone differently. Also don't waste your $ on things like win tabs that will require a large number to be of any use. If your going to do it place your money on proven things. Test is first/ deca is next and EQ if you can't get deca. I assume you have win tabs already? If so combine it with Sus 250 X 1 a week to get your goal. IP: Logged
maxes21 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30)	posted March 16, 2000 09:07 PM how many different kinds of test are there and which are the best? IP: Logged
bigtbone Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 42)	posted March 16, 2000 09:17 PM I agree with Coolhandluke, for your first cycle just take sost alone for about 10 weeks or do the decrease the days cycle. --bigtbone IP: Logged
darkside Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 10)	posted March 16, 2000 09:19 PM I WOULD USE THE SUST AND PRIMO OR DECA IP: Logged
maxes21 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30)	posted March 16, 2000 10:03 PM thank you for the advice, what different kinds of test are there and im probably going to try the sustanon 250 or the deca thank you all for the advice. keep growing bro's IP: Logged
maxes21 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30)	posted March 17, 2000 02:16 AM ok ive narrowed my shit down,im probably going to take deca or sustanon deca: week deca or sust. 1 100mg 150mg 2 150mg 150mg 3 200mg 200mg 4 200mg 200mg 5 200 250 6 200 250 7 200 250 8 200 200 9 150 150 10 100 150 what do you think about thoughs cycles i know there alitte small but its my first cycle and i just turnd 19 and im 5'10 160 which cycle should i take deca or sust. if you have better cycles for first timer pease tell. my name is chase, im commin with tha bass, if you dont watch out, ill kick u in the face. knowlege is power, use that power to grow IP: Logged
Busy_Mind Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 34)	posted March 18, 2000 10:14 AM Maxes, Bro from one 19y/o to another....you got your shit messed up! If knowledge is power than you best better take that more into consideration. Your cycle you listed is all screwed up. I personally think that you need to do alot more research, and get more used to the board talk here, this will better assist you in your OWN decisions in what to choose, what to do, and how much of it(of course we can help you out alittle with that one). I'm getting ready to do similar things, and can maybe help you out more, so check your mail. Another thing is, you can't do 100 or 200mg of sust...it has to be either 250, 500, 750, or 1000mg of sust. Get what I'm saying? Also you're numbers are too low, or atleast I think so, but this is your personal preference. There is just so much more you need to learn first before even starting!!! Research bro, thats how we all learned right from wrong and what's BEST! Peace BIG DAVE IP: Logged
maxes21 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30)	posted March 18, 2000 03:05 PM hey thanks for the input big dave,but your right it is my preference, it is going to be my first cycle and all and im not that big and im only 19 and i dont want to go to over board on the high dosages and i do know i need to do alitle more reaserch.i dont have that much information on sust.250 and from what ive read and what ive heard is not to take lower dosages.if you could help me out a little bit and give me some more info on sust. that would be great. thank maxes21 IP: Logged
maxes21 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30)	posted March 18, 2000 03:42 PM if anyone knows any good sites on sust.250 could you tell me please i cant find that many good ones.thanks IP: Logged
BIGBADFKR Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 102)	posted March 19, 2000 05:39 PM bump IP: Logged
maxes21 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30)	posted March 19, 2000 09:35 PM yep bump allright? IP: Logged
THESAINT Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 142)	posted March 19, 2000 10:27 PM FIRST OF ALL THE LOWEST DOSE OF SUST. IS NOT 250mgs IF YOU SHOOT 1/2cc YOU HAVE 125mgs 1 1/2cc IS 375mgs AND SO ON. NOW THAT I GOT THAT OFF MY CHEST,YOU DON'T WANT TO START LOW AND TAPER UP BECAUSE SUST. IS SO LONG ACTING. START WITH 750mgs (500 IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE) YOU DON'T NEED TO TAPER BECAUSE SUST IS SELF TAPERING. IP: Logged
maxes21 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30)	posted March 19, 2000 10:49 PM thanks saint, i will probably start at 500mgs. would the first 5 weeks of 500mgs and then 250mgs be ok for the last 5 weeks.or should i stay at 500mgs for 10weeks thanks saint IP: Logged
christian918 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 140)	posted March 19, 2000 10:59 PM If money is an issue at all, skip the sust, go with t-200. Test is Test. The only difference is the esters. T-200 will also be easier for you to regulate since you pull from a bottle rather than amps (if you want to take lower dosages). Sust is good, but I think its a little overrated. You can get 3X the amount of T-200 for the about the same price. But if you are rich, run with the sust, its good stuff. -Christian IP: Logged
maxes21 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30)	posted March 19, 2000 11:13 PM well i dont have any accese to any t-200 nor where to get it,how much dose it cost and how much water retention will i get off it and what kind of dassage do you think would be good for a first time user that wants to gain about 10 to 20 lbs?thanks IP: Logged
christian918 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 140)	posted March 19, 2000 11:19 PM Well, if you can get your hands on some, it should go for about $55 for a 10cc bottle. I don't believe there is a difference in water retention from 1 test ester to another, but I could be wrong, I've never had any sides, so I don't have any personal experience to speak of when it comes to side affects. For a beginner, I would suggest 600mg your first week, then 400mg for 5 more weeks, then 200mg your last week. But....if you can only find sust, run with it, its a good product, its just pricey, good luck, Christian IP: Logged
maxes21 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30)	posted March 20, 2000 02:05 AM thanks for the info christian im just going to stay with the sustenon 250 at 500mg for i think 2 weeks and then 250mg for 3 weeks i know its a short cycle for now but i might add on to it.thanks IP: Logged

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