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BigPapaPump Moderator (Total posts: 164) |
posted March 15, 2000 08:39 PM
   Question for you all. My son is going to be in kindergarten next year. We have him currently in a private Catholic k4 class. My question is this....For those of you that went to private schools and or those with children in a private school, do you feel that the lack of 'general public' interaction has hindered you in any way ? My school life was all public and I can not imagine not having the ability to interact with all the different people, my wife on the other hand grew up in all private schools, very upper crust type. We have the ability and are fortunate enough to be able to send him to the absolute best schools, but I wonder if this will hinder him later on. Any thoughts ? BPP IP: Logged |
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FLoridaFLexRx Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 93) |
posted March 15, 2000 09:25 PM
I went to all public schools and i guess it depends on the type of public schools you have in youre area. Get him involved at the ymca, boy scouts, city leagues for the type of diverse interaction but when it comes to education get him the best. If you have good public schools send him there. If not try and send him to a boy/girl private school IP: Logged |
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bad brains Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 258) |
posted March 15, 2000 09:33 PM
I went to private school in San Francisco, it was Catholic, I enjoyed it, the Nuns taught us good manners, were very strict, and when I went to public school, I did not have any problems adapting, except that it was not as disiplined as private school and a lot more crap went on, other than that, dealing with people was not a problem. I guess it just depends on the individual. IP: Logged |
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2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 725) |
posted March 15, 2000 09:39 PM
I had the pleasure of going to a tough public school (in the projects or "ghetto") up until high school. It didn't change my academic goals that I set for myself, but it did make me a tougher person. I quickly learned that there is no place for cowards in this world. I also had lots of interaction with private-school children. They actually seemed to be more anti-social because of the oppression from the strict guidelines set out in their private schools. I think children should see the world as it is as quickly as possible. There should be no surprises, temptations, or psychological problems when they finally go to university. Jon ------------------ IP: Logged |
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the truth Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 173) |
posted March 15, 2000 10:50 PM
I attended both public and private schools. I think you can get a good education in either. If in doubt, go for the private school. IP: Logged |
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UnrealBody Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 5) |
posted March 15, 2000 11:03 PM
I went to 2 different catholic schools and 2 different public schools. I think both had their advantages. If you keep your child involved in extra ciricular activities like sports and different clubs, then your child will be able to meet several different types of people. The private schools without a doubt will provide a much better education and typically have smaller classes which will help your child get individual attention. Good luck with your decision IP: Logged |
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ruffy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 52) |
posted March 16, 2000 12:40 AM
If you want your kid to learn sociological bullshit, or worse, have him shipped home in a body bag, then send him to "PUbLiC SkeWLs." If you want to give him/her a chance to succeed in life, send him to private school, preferably military school! [This message has been edited by ruffy (edited March 16, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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studcj Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 334) |
posted March 16, 2000 01:06 AM
Go with private schools for k-8, then send them to public HS. But, if you live in an area where the public schools are VERY GOOD then send them there, but if not, go private. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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WCP Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 365) |
posted March 16, 2000 02:24 AM
This is my two cents as far as this goes BPP I believe the last thing that you want to do is to in any way over shelter a child. I believe children need interaction to learn individual reactions to situations for both school and life in general. Not saying in any way that a private school would be bad, but they can be very sheltering at times..and can produce a certain naiveness in their students. If the public school has a high academic standard than I would think its the best route for a childs mental developement..not because of the learning but simply the diversity in the systems students. I went to a public school and although very tough and confusing and just plain scary at times..I learned things on my own..like I believe I was meant to. Sure that meant some ass kicking and getting my ass kicked..but its growing pains ya know? The one thing that has paid off in life for me that I can truly say came of public schooling is that I got to know people. Not just so and so..but people in general..and it taught me to be able to handle myself in any given public situation by being able to distinguish personalities that I learned to deal with. Ultimately it is you and your wifes choice, but I commend you on weighing the pros and cons...and making an informed choice. Later Bro, WCP IP: Logged |
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deca-ready Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 4) |
posted March 16, 2000 03:04 AM
I went to private school 1st-4th grade and it turned me into a pussy and almost into a fucking racist.Then I went to a predominatly Black grade school along with Hispanic and Asian kids. The racist shit left real quick and the pussy left also from the help of the Hispanic kids kicking my ass.(For good reason) Funny thing though,when I got my ass kicked it was always someone Hispanic and when I had a friend I thought of as a brother they were also Hispanic. Funny,I guess you always heart the ones you love.One White guy beats my ass and next thing you know I'm at his house for Thanksgiving. As far as being anti-social from Private school,well I'm very much that way,but maybe that's just me.I might just get some of that Paxil they're talking about so much now. IP: Logged |
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the mechanic Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 42) |
posted March 16, 2000 06:52 AM
I went to a public school and my wife went to privite school along with most of her family. They all turned out very successful in their adult lives, both in life and their carreers. We made the decision to place both our children in privite schools( one is 5 and the other is 6). The amount of attention and individual help from teachers, class size, and strict guidelines is the only way to go. My son`s kindergarden class has 16 kids with 2 teachers. We have decided that when they graduate from 8th grade, they will be given the same choice as my wife was given, to go to a public high school. Hope this helps, ------------------ IP: Logged |
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DoctorSavage Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 117) |
posted March 16, 2000 07:55 AM
Just from the standpoint of social engineering, I won't send my 2 boys to public school. If you plan on having any say in how they are introduced to sex, religeon or politics, pick the private school that suits your values. If you don't care what kind of propaganda gets shoved down your kids throats, save the money and go public. Keep in mind that you don't have to send them to a secular private school either. These days Catholic schools are well aware that over 50% of their students are not catholic. Also there is a higher proportion of minorities in private schools than ever before, so the diversity some of the other posters commented on shouldn't be a problem. Nationally the averages stack up like this; 94% of all private school attendees go on to some form of further education (college, military, trade school) while public school only has 66%. This varies a lot from school to school, but those are the national averages. I've been doing a lot of research on this recently. I am facing the same decision in the fall myself with my oldest son. Good luck and let me know what you decide. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Big Brother Val Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 381) |
posted March 16, 2000 11:50 AM
I don't know, man... Schools in some areas are hittin' the shitter bigtime. When my oldest girl, who's only 3 now, gets to the point where she goes to school... I'll be sending her to a private one. It seems to me that they have a lot more control, and are able to affect the children better. You know how it was in school... hell... my school was terrible when it came to drugs and everything else. And I'm terrified that she might get caught up in it. Her mother was an alcoholic, and druggie. So she already has it in her blood. To me... private school is the way to go. Just my opinion. IP: Logged |
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BigPapaPump Moderator (Total posts: 164) |
posted March 16, 2000 09:22 PM
Thanks for the info. I think we'll keep him on the private route and go public at 8th grade. I took a trip down to the newest elementary school today and was really shocked at how things have changed. There does not appear to be much control available to terachers anymore. What a society we have today ! The biggest things was that most of the children his age seemed to be atleast a year below his current level. No sense in dulling his mind this early. BPP IP: Logged |
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The_Blond_Myth Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 97) |
posted March 16, 2000 09:41 PM
SEND THEM TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL!! I went through public, and let me tell you public schools keep getting worse, the teachers are shit, the kids are out of control, and minorities run rampant in their gangs. School is a place to learn, not bullshit with your buddies, would you rather them go into college with good work habbits, or the typical "I don't give a fuck" public school attitude. Send them to the best you can afford ... LP IP: Logged |
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Cannonball Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 84) |
posted March 16, 2000 09:44 PM
I know that this was an earlier post, but I still had something to say. Obviously, the location of your home(city/state) has a direct influence on the conditions of the public sclools in your area. Keep your eyes out for the new Charter Schools that are popping up. We decided that since my wir=fe went to a Christian private school and I always attended public that we would seek an alternate school. Charter schools are public in that they are paid for by tax dollars. However, they are run by the majority of parents and school board members. They wear uniform tops, (sweatshirts, polos, tees, turtlenecks, etc.) but that is the extent of the dress uniforms. Kindergarten runs a full day. But the biggest thing is that the have proven to produce smarter kids. On average the kids at our school have tested learning ability of 1 year 7 months higher that either private or public students at any of the surrounding districts. It's just amazing. My 6 year old son, a 1st grader is already reading on his own! And I'm not talking about Dick and Jane books either. They say the pledge of alliegence, and have a stricter discipline guidline. We love it. It has the feel of public school, yet not a public one from this era. It's like going back forty years to when pride for country and respect for authorities meant something. As I said, I'm not sure if there are any open in your area, but since you are looking for other happy mediums for your childrens best chances of self growth, then check out a Charter School sometime, you might be pleasantly suprised. Just my 2 cents. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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BigPapaPump Moderator (Total posts: 164) |
posted March 16, 2000 10:08 PM
We have a few charter schools around, but it is my understanding that in order to be able to attend, your child must be attending a very poor performing school currently. I guess my biggest problem was the fact that his private school was Catholic. Not that I'm against religion, I just prefer that my son has the freedom to choose his own beliefs. My wife is Catholic, not devote, but I rarely ever attend. His current k4 school is Babtist, he came home a few days ago telling us how they 'stomped out the devil' every day at school. This really pissed me off. If you could have seen him jumping up and down while throwing his hands into the air......very bizzare for a 4 yr old. Anyway...thanks again for all the comments. BPP IP: Logged |
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Cannonball Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 84) |
posted March 16, 2000 10:21 PM
Again BPP, I don't know what region of the country you are from, but I am from Michigan and we have freedom of choice here. I am able to choose the school and district that my children attend, and if I live outside the bus routes, then I just have to arrange transportation to and from school. Here you have to apply to the Charter Schools and not all children are accecpted. Some of which is based upon past school history and acedemics. It is often difficult for me as well when my children are tought things that are contrary to my own personal beliefs and feelings, or are even just borderline. Been there before with ya bro. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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ruffy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 52) |
posted March 16, 2000 10:50 PM
Hey Blond Myth, or whatever the hell you call yourself. I would rather go to a public school where, as you put it, "the minorities are running rampant in their gangs," than to go to a public school where White boys shoot their classmates or ambush them using military style tactics! I hate to say this, but most White folks have a fucking PREJUDICE PROBLEM! later IP: Logged |
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pauly7 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 226) |
posted March 16, 2000 11:14 PM
Hey ruffy sounds you like you have just as much a "prejudice problem" with that statement. But anyhow I went to a very strict all-male military boarding school from grade 7 through 12. It made me a hell of alot tougher, and I was already a little 'bad-ass'. It did however really improve my self-discipline. My school was made up of guys from almost all races, we had guys there from several different countries, (Belize, Mexico City, Hong Kong, Saudi Arabia), we had guys from poor and rich families. Of course I wished I could have gone to a prom or a school dance, but oh well I am turning out pretty damn good, I am a deans list honor student finishing my second undergraduate degree and am making plans to attend law school. I haven't paid a dime for school, actually I am making over $700 month while in school, because of scholarships. The stricy military atmosphere helped me develop strict study habits that helps push me above the less dedicated, many times more intelligent, students at my university. So for me the positives from this atmosphere I was put into far outweigh the negatives. You are probably not looking for something this extreme, but just thought I would share my experiences with you. Good luck 'bro! [This message has been edited by pauly7 (edited March 16, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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ruffy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 52) |
posted March 16, 2000 11:26 PM
Naw man, I do not have a prejudice problem. I just speak from experience! IP: Logged |
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Capt'n_Crunch Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 44) |
posted March 16, 2000 11:39 PM
WTF kinda shit is "the minorities are running rampant in their gangs,"......FUCK OFF YOU RACIST BITCH!!!!!! IP: Logged |
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pauly7 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 226) |
posted March 16, 2000 11:40 PM
First of all I agree that was a stupid post about the "rampant gangs." However ruffy, there are a lot of "white folks" in this world and I am sure that in your "experiences" you have not met "most" of them, so it is very prejudice, and very easy, to assume what you have stated. I am probably not from the same city or town as you and have no problem believing that through your experiences with "white folk" that many of them may be prejudice where you are from. But you can not project this view on such a large group of people that most of whom you have no experience with. Sorry for contributing to taking this thread list off-topic. Please accept my apologies everyone. Hopefully it will not go any farther than this. Later 'bro.
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Capt'n_Crunch Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 44) |
posted March 16, 2000 11:50 PM
Oh yea sorry BPP, the Hitler boy pissed me off....................................... I went to private and public schools....dont wait to send him to public school after eighth grade because it will be like shell shock to him. Send him to private school for elementary school and then start sending him to public junior high(7th-8th grade depending where you live) This way when he gets to high school he will at least have some old friends he knows from junior high and high school will start smoother for him(we know those years can be fun but rough too)....the whole purpose of junior high is to help students adapt to high school so you might as well do it that way.....jus my thoughts from my experiences IP: Logged |
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ruffy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 52) |
posted March 16, 2000 11:50 PM
Hey man, I maybe I should have couched my words better and qualified my statement by stating that most Caucasians that I have encountered have a problem. It could be a number of thing: disdain, contempt, apprehension or up bringing. Shit, I do not know. I am not White. Perhaps you may know! Please notice that I qualified the previous statement with "perhaps." later IP: Logged |
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egoman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 170) |
posted March 17, 2000 12:15 AM
i`ll make it quick and easy,private school all the way.if you stop and really think about it you know i`m right. IP: Logged |
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TxCollegeguy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 207) |
posted March 17, 2000 12:34 AM
I don't know how this turned into a race statement...I think if your public schools are ranked well and have good reviews by your state board then your ok...If not try private for awhile...but if you think they might one day play sports then try sticking them in public once they reach junior high. Hell I started school in Louisiana, and considering how bad they were supposed to be I did ok. I don't know where your from ruffy...maybe up north, south, east, or west...If your in the south you must live in some boondock city....Maybe it's the fact that I'm from Houston, but in my time spent in small country towns I haven't met to many prejudice "white" people. Feel sorry that you do. IP: Logged |
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ruffy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 52) |
posted March 17, 2000 12:40 AM
It turned into a race statement at the 14th message from the top! Do not feel sorry for me, I am cool! I was just speaking my mind, and from experience. I live out West now. But I have lived in Waco(1year), Houston(1 month), and East(22 years). later IP: Logged |
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Stickman99 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 13) |
posted March 17, 2000 10:46 AM
Bump to Dr. Savage. My wife has been at home with my son since he was a year old. And in August he starts kindergarten at a christian school. And Lord willing he will stay there till he graduates 12th grade. As for the guys who think that sheltering too much is wrong, think about this. After high school when do you have to be so tuff and macho. Im not saying public school is not a good education. It simply comes down to the fact that how you raise your kid at home is going to determine his outcome. Its not the teachers responsibilty to teach your kid moral values and religious beliefs. But if you choose a private school you can make sure that your morals and beliefs are reinstated and carried out throughout the day while your child is under the influence of another person. Children are a gift from God and if you choose to have children it is your responsibilty to put them at the top of your priority list. Sometimes that means not driving that new truck or car or living in the country club so that you can afford to pay for a better education. Think about the way the world is going. Do you really want your kid to be like everyone else's. Is machoism and being cool more important than your kids future. Look at the long run and I think youll see that good schools dont turn out good kids, Good PARENTS turn out good kids!!!!! I choose to send my kid to a school that impliments my moral beliefs and appropriate behavior that I think will benefit my kid in the long run. Sure he might not be the coolest kid on the block, but Ill do my best to make sure he is the most repectful kid. I could go on for days about this but I guess Ill some it up with this. Sending your kid to a private school will not turn your kid out right if you dont back it up at home......But the two together stand a very good chance! My childs eternal destination is more important than the worlds oppinion of wether he is acceptable. IP: Logged |
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airtyme Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 227) |
posted March 17, 2000 10:58 AM
stick with the private schools if you have the means. Your child will have a better chance of growing up without having to be around gangs, drugs and things of that nature. In the world we live in today, our children need to take advantage of evry good resource possible. On the other hand, street smarts is a definate bonus and he/she will need social interaction outside of the school. I think someone said it earlier- YMCA, clubs even something like martial arts is a way to get extra interaction. You sound like a good parent and I applaude you for that. They only concern I have is that people who grow up in upperclass surroundings (like private schools) tend to take the little things for granted and look down on those who are less fortunate. Be careful with that. Good luck! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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conan69 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 301) |
posted March 17, 2000 11:14 AM
i went to a middle class public school but the whole time i wished i could go to military school but could never afford it private schools are expensive for a reason they provide a top notch education if you can afford it you should send him or her IP: Logged |
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DoctorSavage Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 117) |
posted March 17, 2000 02:21 PM
Thanks stickman. Yep, I agree. Who the hell cares of your kid was "Macho" or "Cool" in high school if he grows up to have crap relationships with women because relationships with them mean little, or have little or no respect for people he or she doesn't know, or worse still- gets shot before she can even graduate. Screw it. Raise your kids right no matter what it takes. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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vinman6967 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 103) |
posted March 17, 2000 03:28 PM
I have seen kids go to public schools and go on to do just as well as private as well as seeing kids go to private school turn into complete social idiots. A LOT of who we are gets formed from a very young age so if you help them through all their schooling and pay CLOSE attention to their needs until they are a minimum 13 years old their direction in life should be heading the right way. My children are 8 & 10 soon to be 9 & 10 and both are doing fantastic in public school and have great social lifes. As with anything, use your judgement to do what is absolutely best for them and they will eventually have the skills to succeed. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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roadruler Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 21) |
posted March 17, 2000 04:22 PM
I went to a catholic school up to eight grade then after that i went to public schools. And now i teach at a catholic school. I think both of them were good. The only down side to a private school normally is there not funded so they don't have as much equipent or facility as a public schools. I think when i have kids, depending on the area, they will attend a public school. IP: Logged |
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chestyII Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 344) |
posted March 17, 2000 07:03 PM
My oldest is in a magnet school (public version of an accelerated school) The public school systems for the most part do not teach academics and social skills very well. If you want the best for your young ones a private school is the way to go. It has been shown that those who attend a private school usually are 1 grade or more ahead of other children in the same grade level, socially and academically. This is your chance to give your kids the best fighting chance to survive and by the time they go to college that degree will be the equivalent of a HS diploma. So train them well now. chesty IP: Logged |
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biggmack Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 56) |
posted March 17, 2000 07:09 PM
I spent all of my years in a k12 military school. Howe Military Academy. I feel without the stringent and rigorous atmosphere, I would not be the successful man that I am. Public schools are dangerous now. The kids hardly learn anything because the teachers are too busy complaining about their low salary. My advice is, if you have the $ to send your child to private school, well then do it! It will serve them a life time! IP: Logged |
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