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dogboy
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posted March 15, 2000 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dogboy   Click Here to Email dogboy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 66354862
I have read that AS helps ppl burn fat calories because it is anti-catabolic. I was wondering if someone could explain this phenomena in more detail. Also, any firsthand info on losing weight doing a moderate amount of cardio on Sust 250? PLz, don't mistake this as my only goal...

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beerbarbq
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posted March 15, 2000 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beerbarbq   Click Here to Email beerbarbq     Edit/Delete Message
Hey man anabolics will help you retain and gain muscle, they are not fat burners like clen, Dnp or ECA, I suppose the more muscle you have the higher your metabolism so the more calories you will burn in a day. The reason people use anabolics is to gain muscle not to lose fat, but by haveing more muscle that helps you lose fat, so there you have it. Train and eat to get big while on a cycle to gain as much muscle as possible and when your done concentrate on fat loss. I just cant figure out why people keep posting the same question and or statement over and over again that steroids will cut you up, it makes no sense.

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TSSA
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posted March 15, 2000 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TSSA   Click Here to Email TSSA     Edit/Delete Message
AS dosent cut you up it puts muscle on you there for pusshing the fat to the side so to speak if you want to cut up qut eating carbs, than you wont have energy to lift just get huge than diet to lose weight but you will lose muscle to so one or the other.good luck man.

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dogboy
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posted March 16, 2000 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dogboy   Click Here to Email dogboy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 66354862
Aargh!!! Damn it ppl. Read my posts before you answer. I have read quite a few posts on this board where ppl started losing fat while they began AS cycles. I was interested in this phenomena. I already know about metabolism stimulants, and am also aware that many lifters prefer to do purely bulking cycles. All of that stuff does not answer my post.

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the truth
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posted March 16, 2000 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth     Edit/Delete Message
Dogboy, the fact that a given steroid may have anti-catabolic effects would have no bearing on it helping to burn fat calories (other than in the most indirect of senses,ie having more lean mass, hence a higher BMR). However, I don't see why you couldn't do some Sust to help maintain muscle mass while cutting up. You may get a little water retention, but that can be dealt with pretty easily. I did something similar some time back (back when I still did cardio) and got fairly ripped at the end. I did clen, ephedrine/caffeine (I think aspirin is a waste of time) and t-3 along w/the AS, trained each body part once every 6 days, and did one hi-intensity interval session on bike in A.M. daily, as well as one low intensity session on bike after each workout. I reduced my calories to about 500 below maintenance as well skewing the macronutrient ratio to one more in favor of protein. I am not suggesting that one can use AS to lose fat, merely to help maintain muscle on a diet.

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dogboy
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posted March 17, 2000 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dogboy   Click Here to Email dogboy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 66354862
Still interested in your opinions on this, maybe some moderators?

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cjac1
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posted March 17, 2000 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cjac1   Click Here to Email cjac1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30896181
I would have to agree with everyone else AS doesn't caues fat loss directly. You gain muscle which in turn raises your BMR and all things being left the same ie, Diet/workout/supplements you get somewhat leaner if you add AS. I alway have gained weight to compete and I seen to get leaner as I get heavier. Strange I know but, thats just me and a couple of others I know.

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Joseph_stalin
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posted March 18, 2000 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

yes they will. i read that anabolic steroids will burn more fat than a low fat diet. so you might lose 1-2 lbs. a week if you don't force feed yourself.

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dogboy
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posted March 18, 2000 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dogboy   Click Here to Email dogboy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 66354862
Is there really two camps of thought on this?

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CB38AC
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posted March 18, 2000 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
I too am interested in this though I have only anectdotal evidence of friends who have used to go by. They seem to feel they loose fat and gain muscle even on weaker anabolics like winny. I am starting my first cycle which is rather harsh and i have a post with a similiar question.

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cjac1
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posted March 18, 2000 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cjac1   Click Here to Email cjac1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30896181
Once again AS doesn't burn fat. The muscle you again from AS causes your BMR to go up and that's what burns fat. The added muscle has the fat loss effect. AS has no direct affect on fat loss.

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filtheboss
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posted March 18, 2000 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filtheboss   Click Here to Email filtheboss     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 59593173
heres a little mind breaker for you.
at 198 pounds three weeks ago i began with 500mb sus250 and although somwething really drastic and mind boggling happened to me i am now at 182 and cut like never before. i must say that my eating habbits have changed without much gut control from me. but it did happen. eat less and eat protein and youll see.

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BIGBADFKR
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posted March 19, 2000 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIGBADFKR     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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Gobler
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posted March 20, 2000 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gobler   Click Here to Email Gobler     Edit/Delete Message
To say that AS increases your metabolism and improves yours lean muscle mass, but does not burn fat is a complete condradiction. YES AS Burns fat. But most people on AS increase their calorie intake so much that it outways the increase in metabolic rate and therefore may cause a bodyfat increase. If AS did not burn fat than a typical cylcle would turn everdody into a strong fat pig.

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