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jboole
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 14, 2000 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jboole   Click Here to Email jboole     Edit/Delete Message
I live in a dorm in PA, but want to get my gear sent to me. I have a mailbox number, which means that I would have to get the package, take it to my dorm room, write return to sender, and have the shit sit in my dorm room for three to four days. How can someone come looking for the package if they can't get in the dorm. They will probably ask why the hell I took it to my dorm room instead of just leaving it my mailbox? Please help.

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agentsmith
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posted March 14, 2000 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agentsmith   Click Here to Email agentsmith     Edit/Delete Message
Go to Steroidlaw.com for all of your legal questions

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Villan
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posted March 14, 2000 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Villan   Click Here to Email Villan     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67120732
What is the purpose of writing return to sender and holding it for 3 or 4 days, anyway?

Ordering soon by mail, I was never told anything like that.

Thanks,


Villan

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big_bad_buff
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posted March 14, 2000 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_bad_buff   Click Here to Email big_bad_buff     Edit/Delete Message

because someone might come by looking for the package, and you can just give them the damn thing.

but if you open it, and hide all of your shit, then what happends if someone comes by to get the packege from you? THEY SEARCH YOUR HOUSE, AND FIND IT, THEN HALL YOU OFF TO JAIL....

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beerbarbq
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posted March 14, 2000 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beerbarbq   Click Here to Email beerbarbq     Edit/Delete Message
If you can put it somewhere where they cant find it, maybe a friend will hold it for you and just tell them you tossed it if someone comes to your door, but I doubt you will have any problems.

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Villan
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posted March 14, 2000 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Villan   Click Here to Email Villan     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67120732
Okay, and what if you put Return to Sender on it and they actually return it???? Or what if somebody does come looking for it, you just lost money, huh???? I am ordering soon, what exactly should I do when a package comes?

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MC
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posted March 14, 2000 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC     Edit/Delete Message
>>what exactly should I do when a package comes?

Stick it in yor arse and then get up the gym. That way you won't be in when they come knocking

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THESAINT
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posted March 14, 2000 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
WRITE "RETURN TO THE SAINT" I'LL BE
BY TO PICK IT UP LATER. HEHE JUST
KIDDING. RETURN TO SENDER IS TO COVER
YOUR ASS SO YOU CAN SAY IT WAS DELIVERED
TO THE WRONG PERSON OR ADDRESS.

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studcj
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posted March 14, 2000 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
Why would "they" come looking for it?
Who is they?
I don't see why you can't just order it. Then get it. Then use it. Please respond to my questiions so I can understand better.

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A-mass
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posted March 14, 2000 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
If you're ordering domestically and for personal use only, this isn't as big of a deal. The only way "they" [being postal inspector, DEA, cops, FBI, whoever] are going to find out there's an illegal substance in your package is if your source got busted and ratted you out, or if they accidentally came upon the gear when checking the package for some other reason [mail bomb most likely], or if it was sent from a flagged address. Most sources aren't going to be dumb enough to mail from the same address every time, so you're probably OK, there. This return to sender is more for international packages that are flagged by customs. If you ordered under an alias and wrote return to sender on the package when you received it.... there's no legal documentation that attaches you to that package and why it's on your doorstep. For all you know, the foreign pharmacy just sent it to the wrong address. You don't even know what AS are. Even if they open it up and find AS in there, you walk unscathed.

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hagand
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posted March 14, 2000 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hagand     Edit/Delete Message
Do you walk away unscathed even if you just returned from the foriegn country the package came from?

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BuffEnuf
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posted March 14, 2000 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BuffEnuf   Click Here to Email BuffEnuf     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 63015976
Good response A-mass.

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Villan
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posted March 14, 2000 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Villan   Click Here to Email Villan     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67120732
I know what return to sender means and why I would do that for legal purposes...........my question was......what if the mail man decides to actually Return to SEnder???????// And takes your shit and you never see it again? What would be the point???? I don't see how you are going to have a package outside your house with "Return to Sender" on it for 3 or 4 days and it not get returned? See what I mean? Every time I have done that with regular mail that actually came to my house and was the wrong address it was always picked up the next day by the mailman if I put "Return to Sender" on it, understand??? So what is the purpose/???? is the mailman not going to take it??

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BIGBADFKR
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posted March 14, 2000 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIGBADFKR     Edit/Delete Message
Go to Steroidlaw.com

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frogman
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posted March 14, 2000 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frogman     Edit/Delete Message
HEY bRO i JUST GOT GEAR fRIDAY PICKED IT UP AT POST OFFICE NO PROBLEM AT ALL.

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Cannonball
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posted March 14, 2000 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cannonball   Click Here to Email Cannonball     Edit/Delete Message
Good post, this is all new information to me. So the general concensus is that a domestic connection is a safer mail order deal than a foriegn? no?

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Gtn-Big2
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posted March 14, 2000 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gtn-Big2   Click Here to Email Gtn-Big2     Edit/Delete Message
Villan...you stick it by the door on the inside of your house, NOT the outside!

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A-mass
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posted March 14, 2000 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, not outside -- bring it inside, write return to sender on it... then put it by your front door like you had intended to put it outside on the doorstep later. Remember, the ONLY way 'they' get inside your house is with a search warrant.

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Villan
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posted March 14, 2000 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Villan   Click Here to Email Villan     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67120732
Okay, and how would I do this if I am living with someone that isn't supposed to know about it? I can't just keep something by the door. They'll keep reminding me to put it outside.

Then my next question would be, so I do wait just 3 to 4 days??? And that's long enough??


Villan

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transparent
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posted March 14, 2000 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for transparent   Click Here to Email transparent     Edit/Delete Message
How about this.
Take everything out of the package hide it, fill the package with garbage and stick it back in the mail with return to sender on it.
Now they have the package and you have your stuff.
Pretty simple!

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Villan
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posted March 14, 2000 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Villan   Click Here to Email Villan     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67120732
And you have done this??? Are you crazy? What if it is all a setup and they know it was in there when they gave it to you?

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Nugent
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posted March 15, 2000 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nugent   Click Here to Email Nugent     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 22613408
I think alot has to do with quantity.If you are ordering for yourself,they arent going to spend the manpower to bust a bber trying to make some gains.If you are moving big time gear,then you might want to take precautions.Steroids aren't on the #1 drug bust list,like coke,heroine,and the biggie,MDMA,big time crack down on foriegn packages containing pills.Thats why orals are not as easy to import as they used to be.Known as 2000-x,customs is allowed to x-ray all packages incoming.Thanks to Y2K scare now its on for everything.Big bro will be screening your sewers pretty soon to see what youv'e been taking.

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A-mass
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posted March 15, 2000 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
Chill out, bro. If the DEA is behind the package.... they've probably got a fake delivery set up -- so the first thing that should tip you off is that you've got to sign for the package... If that's not it, they're not going to wait four fuckin' days to make a move if they think you're a bigtime AS dealer. Let it sit there until the next morning and you're fine. You shouldn't even be worrying about this at all if you're receiving domestically and proper mailing precautions are taken.

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BigQuadz
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posted March 15, 2000 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigQuadz   Click Here to Email BigQuadz     Edit/Delete Message
I wouldn't worry as long as it is a small amount, just don't get stupid and order enough where it looks like you are going to sell. I say maybe 10-20 amps per package or 2-3 vials of 10 cc. Just keep it small and lay low! If they want you bad enough they will get you, even if you write return to sender on it, they will probably just bust your ass or make you sign.

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transparent
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posted March 15, 2000 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for transparent   Click Here to Email transparent     Edit/Delete Message
They can not see you open the package. All you need to do is remove the stuff from your dorm.(do not put it in your car)If they search your dorm they will not find anything. just remember to use gloves so they do not get your prints from the inside of you package. They can not prove that you removed the contents if you leave it outside. "Any one could tamper with it". After a week when you find out that nobody is watching you go ahead and start your cycle.
The thing you should worry about the most is it not showing up at all. Then your out a lot of money!

It is in their best interest to keep the package and not deliver it at all if they find anything.


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Villan
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posted March 15, 2000 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Villan   Click Here to Email Villan     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67120732
Has anyone actually ordered from outside the U.S. and had no problems? Regularly?

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transparent
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posted March 15, 2000 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for transparent   Click Here to Email transparent     Edit/Delete Message
Just another thought

The web site drugs.com sold for $650,000 last year.
Approximatly 40% of prescription drugs sold in the US are through on-line pharmacy's that means millions of legal drugs a being delivered all over the US daily by USPS. This will actually make it easier for us to obtain gear this way. Even if they x-ray and see pills who's to say its not grandmas prozac !

Don't worry!

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Villan
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posted March 15, 2000 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Villan   Click Here to Email Villan     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67120732
I thought it was just customs that were x-raying all parcels from outside the U.S. not in the U.S. I definitely agree that getting gear from fed-ex inside the states is less risky than getting something from outside the U.S. A buddy of mine hopped over to mexico and got shit for me and fed-exed to me until he got busted at the border. They aren't going to check domestic mails as much as non-domestic.

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transparent
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posted March 15, 2000 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for transparent   Click Here to Email transparent     Edit/Delete Message
Good point.

Who did your friend get busted by? Customs? Did he send the package before he got busted?

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Villan
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posted March 15, 2000 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Villan   Click Here to Email Villan     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67120732
he did it on a regular basis for over a year. Came back into the states and fed-exed my order. Got busted by customs with a suitcase full....or at least I'm assuming it was that much because that was his usual thing..don't know what is going to happen, haven't heard from him since.....and no I didn't get my shit that time. Customs seized it all. lost money onthat one.

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FLoridaFLexRx
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posted March 15, 2000 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLoridaFLexRx   Click Here to Email FLoridaFLexRx     Edit/Delete Message
I think what Jboole means is that he lives in the dorms and when you live in the dorms and get a package, the Residence Hall Advisor can search the package and make sure it aint drugs or AS. If I was JBoole I'd open the box, give the gear to a trusted friend off campus, fill the box with candy reseal it and say it was a care pakage from Dad's office or gramps.

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FLoridaFLexRx
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posted March 15, 2000 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLoridaFLexRx   Click Here to Email FLoridaFLexRx     Edit/Delete Message
also could go to the post office and get a PO box

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beerbarbq
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posted March 15, 2000 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beerbarbq   Click Here to Email beerbarbq     Edit/Delete Message
FloridaFlexRX, hey man what college did you go to? I know in the good old USA its a federal offense to open someone elses mail or packages, I know there is no way a Resident Hall Advisor can open and search a package sent to someone else, its unbelievably illegal peroid, there is no way that can or will happen.

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jettstream
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posted March 15, 2000 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jettstream   Click Here to Email jettstream     Edit/Delete Message
Has anyone orderd clomid from outside the US?

did you use your REAL name, since clomid/nolvadex are just "prescription" drugs?

I'm just wondering.

If you get a package from overseas do they just leave it at your door step?

thanks
jeTT

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Mr. T
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posted March 15, 2000 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. T     Edit/Delete Message
It can take up to 4 days before big brother comes knocking. Sometimes it can be hard to find a judge to get a warrant. Especially if you are living in the sticks.

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TSSA
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posted March 15, 2000 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TSSA   Click Here to Email TSSA     Edit/Delete Message
Yah you could get bussted, yah you could shit your liver out, yah etc,etc do you wanna get big or not that is the question If your that worried maybe you should not be doing this at all.you will be fine.

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airtyme
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posted March 15, 2000 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for airtyme   Click Here to Email airtyme     Edit/Delete Message
common sense carries alot of weight!
USE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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