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E2 Moderator (Total posts: 1429)	posted March 13, 2000 08:06 PM Guy's it looks like i made a mistake. I called organon again and the clear sustanon redijects are real. Yes i said they're real. Here's how it's panned out. A few months ago organon decided to change the oil base in their sustanon preloads. To save money they changed the oil to the same oil that they've been using in their Deca Durabolin. The old preloads used corn oil and the new ones like deca use Peanut oil. I was very adamant about being sure about this, so i spoke to the guy twice for quite a while, got all the lot numbers and all the details. From 98001(and earlier)-99007: They were made with the amber corn oil. From 99008-whenever: They will now be manufactured with the peanut oil, the same one used in deca. They plan on continuing to use this oil for the rest of the future product runs. So from now on the organon sust will be a clear oil, the peanut oil. I know i'm reapeating myself i just want this to be clear. Remember any preloads that you find with a lot number of 99007 or earlier will still be amber. I'm very sorry guys, the first person i spoke to was sure that they hadn't changed anything. I'm sorry if this has caused any of you any problems. [This message has been edited by E2 (edited March 13, 2000).] IP: Logged
2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 716)	posted March 13, 2000 08:13 PM Damn you E2...I destroyed all of my redijects because I thought they were fake. I also nearly killed my source over your mistake...I hope I can reconsolidate things with him...just kidding!! I hardly ever see a redi-ject since I do not like Mexican products. Jon ------------------ Check out my Injection and Syringe Info Site= www.angelfire.com/biz5/syringes [This message has been edited by 2Thick (edited March 13, 2000).] IP: Logged
BigQuadz Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 136)	posted March 13, 2000 08:22 PM Honest mistake E2, I too made my source very pissed off at me for the whole rediject thing, we are cool now though. Ok, I got to get a little credit for analyzing the packages, I am very happy they are real and I am sure Big Bro Val is too!! I still have two left so I will just throw them in with my 13 niles!! HELL YEA IP: Logged
macrophage69alpha Moderator (Total posts: 917)	posted March 13, 2000 08:31 PM they changed the oil base, some guy mentioned something like that, who was that guy? he must be pretty smart hehehe BTW- E2 I would not worry about it, you made an honest mistake, which was listening to functionaries of a Mexican Pharmaceutical Company- to tell you the truth though if upjohn changed the base for their test- some one from there might have overlooked that fact and mislead you in the same way- It is a sad world but you almost always gotta double check. BTW2- I wonder if the change in oils is the reason that some are experiencing more irritation and swelling- there is a pretty high prevalance of allergies to peanuts among our population. just a thought- ------------------ MP IP: Logged
The Ranger Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 456)	posted March 13, 2000 08:44 PM It takes a big man to admit to an honest mistake....I guess George made the right decision in his Mod's...... Ranger IP: Logged
KANE Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 82)	posted March 13, 2000 08:46 PM You da man ------------------ KANE IP: Logged
egoman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 167)	posted March 13, 2000 09:04 PM thanks e2 atleast now we know.your a good man.thanks for being there for us. IP: Logged
flexed1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 339)	posted March 13, 2000 09:12 PM I to am responsible for this and wish to apologize. My sources told me months ago they where fake and this was gonna happen so to everyone I do apologize for saying they where fake. My name is very important to me and i would never wish to mislead so again please except my apologize .They told me they where fake and my sources are very connected so i trusted them Please accept my apologize. IP: Logged
OKIE Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 122)	posted March 13, 2000 10:53 PM Thanks for the info guys. Don't worry about the mistake E2. Your recent information couldn't have come at a better time. I was just about to trash my Sus250 for something else. Thank God I waited. I appreciate your honesty and opinions as always. ------------------ OKIE IP: Logged
studcj Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 334)	posted March 13, 2000 11:02 PM You da shit E2!! ------------------ "I can, because Im crazzy!" Studcj IP: Logged
MiniMic Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 100)	posted March 13, 2000 11:05 PM Good looking out bro!! IP: Logged
gary Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 137)	posted March 13, 2000 11:07 PM Thanks E2! IP: Logged
the truth Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 166)	posted March 13, 2000 11:28 PM Thanks for clearing this up. The info couldn't have come at a better time. IP: Logged
pauly7 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 225)	posted March 13, 2000 11:31 PM Thanks Bro! IP: Logged
E2 Moderator (Total posts: 1429)	posted March 13, 2000 11:34 PM Macro i had to speak to four different people until i finally got someone who knew what they were talking about. And then i still had to get him to go find out all the info and call me back. Mexico is a mess IP: Logged
Joey Smalls Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11)	posted March 13, 2000 11:54 PM Unphuckingbelievable...... Last week I post that the clear redijects are real, and everyone jumps all over me telling me to get my facts straight. Then again I post this afternoon that I had confirmed that they are indeed real(which I never doubted). And again everyone is like,"yeah, whatever." Now E2 posts the same damn thing several hours later, and if he isn't the second coming of Christ. Don't get me wrong, I am not looking to get credit. My point is, some of you guys need to start thinking for yourselves and be more open to alternative feedback. Just because someone is not well known does not automatically mean they are wrong. Conversely, just because someone is well known does not automatically mean they are right. E2, this is in no way an attack on you. I applaud you for researching this and for admitting your mistake. Just something to think about, guys (and girls). IP: Logged
magman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18)	posted March 14, 2000 12:04 AM all this talk about the clear redijects being fake , what about the clear sustanon amps from organon ? they must be real to i guess ? IP: Logged
CyrusTheGreat Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 58)	posted March 14, 2000 12:13 AM bump IP: Logged
Cannonball Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 81)	posted March 14, 2000 12:35 AM Good post by E2 regarding misinformation. Also a good post from Joey regarding certain people on this board who do tend to believe that they know it all and tend to get uptight and in the face of some "newbie" for suggesting contrary information such as Joey did a short time ago. I read that post and remember. I agree that the safety of everyone is at stake if a board member posts information that is incorrect. However, many of the posts I read, have had two differing sets of advice from two differing sources who make claims to a certain methodology or product or whatever, and in the end, a "RIGHT" answer is never really given. Perhaps instead of attacking another person who shares "different" information, we should question them as to the basis of their afore mentioned facts or advice and work towards the absolute Truth and answer for the posed question. Good research and effort on E2's part for finding the real answer. Also thank you Joey for providing to the board "RELIABLE" factual information even though it was not well recieved. Sometimes it seems to little to late, but it will have to do. ------------------ Bust a Ball & Grow Big IP: Logged
flexed1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 339)	posted March 14, 2000 10:39 AM hey joey nobody jumped all over you. some agreed some did not. everyone is entiltled to his her her opinions based on the facts provided. those who said they where wrong myself included apologogized. this board is for information to keep people informed and when something looks different that has been around for years it sends up red flags. in this case it was a false alrm but better to be educated to a possible scam than to ignore it. and remember NOBODY myself included posted test results so don't take it personally. its over let it go [This message has been edited by flexed1 (edited March 14, 2000).] IP: Logged
Mr. Nobody Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 68)	posted March 14, 2000 11:28 AM E2, what about this upjohn cyp. product Here is my description of my upjohn, cyp.: Red top, "NDC 0009-0417-02" "10 ml vial" "Depot-Testerone" in big letters,underneath that, small letters "Sterile Solution" "Testosterone cypionate injection, USP "200 mg per ml" (big orange letters)below that then "For intramuscular use only", then below "Caution: Federal law prohibits dispensing without prescription", then below Upjohn in square black backgrounf with gray bar behind. The Lot# is 850 DD. The exp date is Sep 2001 and stamped on, can not be rubbed off, located on left side of label. on right side it has some more product info and below that inside the grey bar: "The Upjohn Company" "Kalamazoo, Michigan 49001, USA" Got this off the upjohn web-site: HOW SUPPLIED DEPO-Testosterone Sterile Solution is available as follows: 100 mg/mL 10 mL vials NDC 0009-0347-02 200 mg/mL 1 mL vials NDC 0009-0417-01 10 mL vials NDC 0009-0417-02 Pharmacia & Upjohn Company � Kalamazoo, Michigan 49001, USA IP: Logged
Dino Strong Moderator (Total posts: 198)	posted March 14, 2000 11:31 AM E2, Nice investigation work. IP: Logged
Big Brother Val Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 369)	posted March 14, 2000 11:32 AM HA HA HA!!! WOOHOO!!! YIPEE!!!! I was wondering why it was working so well. SHIT YEAH!!! See? There are advantages to being a guinney pig. SHIT YEAH AGAIN!!! Here I was thinking my trip to Mexico was a bust! And so I took the damn things anyway... 4 weeks into it!! AND IT'S CONFIRMED!!! THEY'RE REAL!!! WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks, E2. Damn what a good day this is turning out to be. IP: Logged
die_hard842 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 223)	posted March 14, 2000 11:34 AM Thanks E2 for all the effort, I have always liked the ready-jects over all other brands of Sostenon, I justed Called my guy in Nuevo and he was told the same thing today, so that is good news. IP: Logged
Villan Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 127)	posted March 14, 2000 11:37 AM E2, this is a little of the subject but, did you have to speak spanish when you talk to them? Gracias, Villan IP: Logged
E2 Moderator (Total posts: 1429)	posted March 14, 2000 11:42 AM Mr nobody sorry i don't have any more info on your cyp and villan no, i dont' speak spanish took a while to find someone who spoke english well enough to deal with me as well. [This message has been edited by E2 (edited March 14, 2000).] IP: Logged
airtyme Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218)	posted March 14, 2000 02:04 PM Thanks E2. When it comes to injecting shit im my ass, it is better to be safe than sorry. You handled it just right in my opinon. Not to mention It takes a real man to admit he made a mistake. However, I don't belive you made a mistake, like I said it could not have been handled any better. Keep up the good work! ------------------ "Fear is a darkroom where negatives develop!" IP: Logged
androx Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 196)	posted March 14, 2000 02:29 PM That is Great News!!! Thanks E2 for confirming that they were legit. This is great! I have been taking the clear preloads for 4 weeks and am so relieved that they are the real deal. Thanks again, androx IP: Logged
45Plates Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 130)	posted March 14, 2000 03:39 PM Thanx for the update E2 ya shure cleared a lot of confusion out of my head and i'm shure a lot of the other bro's to. IP: Logged
quenepo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 250)	posted March 14, 2000 04:37 PM Good info Bro,Bump quenepo IP: Logged
BIGBADFKR Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 70)	posted March 14, 2000 05:29 PM E2, Nice investigation work. IP: Logged
Lee wanna B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 111)	posted March 16, 2000 11:39 PM E2, thanks alot. I too had my source disgruntled at me. It took me forever to get another order and I'm still waiting on another now. He has been a little longer than usual. But no big deal. We are cool. Although you did post the phone numbers, I don't think too many people called. I thought about it, but decided against it. Thanks for clearing this up. You have brightened many many people's days. I know you have mine. It's too bad I didn't know this a couple of weeks ago, I wouldn't have switched to Primoteston. I love sust. What I don't understand is, I used Pakistan amps last time and I felt sick the night and days after, with the clear redi's, I don't feel this way, just ass is real sore like the other. Clear oil and no sickness thru flags up for me too. But this is real good news now, I can use the clear redi's, grow and not be sick. GREAT!! Thanks for your info bro. IP: Logged
BIG HURT Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 16)	posted March 16, 2000 11:49 PM Thanks for the info. IP: Logged
FLoridaFLexRx Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 86)	posted March 17, 2000 12:43 AM E2 are you adistant relative of sherlock holmes? looks like alot of guys on the board are happy they havent been shooting nothing! especially to you big bro V IP: Logged
big_guy1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 446)	posted March 17, 2000 12:51 AM I heard something about that/..glad to know it is true..honest mistake bro...later big-guy IP: Logged

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