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Titan
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 09, 2000 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Titan   Click Here to Email Titan     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 66708785
This is something that runs in my family. Does anyone know what steriods are safer to take? Im 20 right now and plan on waiting a little bit longer before I do my 1st cycle. If youd like to know more about me e-mail me or ask and I can post it.

thanks to everyone

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Dutch
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 09, 2000 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dutch     Edit/Delete Message
Avoid stanozolol.. (Stromba/winstrol.)

It is said that DHT will make cancer cells grow..

Dutch

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Joseph_stalin
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 09, 2000 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

you shouldn't use anadrol or growth hormone. growth hormone is said to aggrevate cancer and anadrol will make prostate cancer worse.


you should stay away from drugs that convert to dht. dihydrotestosterone (dht) is what causes prostate cancer.

i don't know how much of drugs like test or dbol convert to dht. since they cause hair loss, i am assuming at least some (hair loss and prostate cancer are both due to dht, so i am assuming that you shouldn't use any drugs that cause hair loss, since the same hormone that causes hair loss also causes prostate cancer) of it is converted to dht.

if you want my opinion (i'm not basing this on fact, you should get a 2nd opinion), you should stay away from the hard drugs like dbol, test and anadrol. use something that has no conversion to dht (or that never has hair loss as a side effect). i think that deca might be like that, no dht in it, but i am not sure. The gains will be slower (probably about 1/2 as fast as on test or dbol), but they will be more permanent.

are you currently on finasteride, ie proscar?

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Dutch
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 09, 2000 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dutch     Edit/Delete Message
Test also converts to DHT..

But mr stalin is right, get a second opinion.. (not sure about the dbol to)
do not take risks with this..

Dutch,

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Titan
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 09, 2000 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Titan   Click Here to Email Titan     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 66708785
No, im just taking a protien supplement right now. Itll be my 1st cycle and i was thinking of using primo but not sure what else.

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bollocks
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 09, 2000 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bollocks   Click Here to Email bollocks     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 28672700
look in musclemag may 2000
page 40 " the PRO state of body building"
tells about DHT and the prostate.

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biggmack
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posted March 09, 2000 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for biggmack   Click Here to Email biggmack     Edit/Delete Message
Titan, any type of steroid promotes cancer cell growth. The most common are testicular, prostate, and liver. Even the simplest steroid like Decca will promote, but maybe not cause, "cancer". Every steroid alters the immune system, thus making it harder,(or sometimes impossible) for the body to fight off the ocassional cancer cell. Sorry to darken your perspective of A.S., but it is only the truth. Besides, one or two cycles will not pose a threat if you are healthy. As long as you don't have any auto immune diseases, etc. GOOD LUCK MAN!

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G
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 09, 2000 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for G     Edit/Delete Message
I HAVE THE ANSWER FOR YOU, WHEN YOU GO ON THE JUICE USE A SUPPLEMENT CALL "SAW PALMETTO" THIS WILL BLOCK A CERTAIN ENZYME FROM ENLARGING THE PROSTATE GLAND

G

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ydnarb9
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 10, 2000 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ydnarb9   Click Here to Email ydnarb9     Edit/Delete Message
The current consensus is that DHT is NOT the main culprrit in causing prostate cancer and scientists are focusing on estrogen and prolactin as culprits. There are a few new studies out that show testosterone replacement vs. primobolan and in these individuals estrogen levels were higher in the primo group and the primo group had more negative effects on the prostate.
I take the saw palmetto because it has been shown to keep the prostate from growing and proscar for hairloss.

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SLIMMAN01
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 10, 2000 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SLIMMAN01   Click Here to Email SLIMMAN01     Edit/Delete Message
Anybody else? What about a list of steroids that don't convert to DHT. My father had prostate cancer. If anybody has or know of any other info on this topic. Please post or
hit me up.
We all want to live long and strong.

SLIMMAN01

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macrophage69alpha
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 10, 2000 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
actually only one steroid converts to DHT- testosterone. though some other androgens are 5a reduced deca and one or two others- most androgens just bind to the the prostate cells- the difference being their binding capacity and their stimulation of the receptor- DHT binds really well and has a strong expression in these cells- the bind capacity of other AS is not all that well known- though I am sure their are some studies, I just have not read any.

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SLIMMAN01
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posted March 11, 2000 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SLIMMAN01   Click Here to Email SLIMMAN01     Edit/Delete Message
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