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jettstream Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 27) |
posted March 09, 2000 10:05 AM
  
I've been asking about this frequently: i have 2 t200 10/ml(total) /2000mg(total)/bottles and enough dbol tabs for a sweet cycle. i have about 20 nolvadex and some clomid(30) on the way. I plan to start up at the beginning of next month. i'm 235lbs 30%bf 5'10" and reasonable work out experience, but my gear experience is up and coming. Any recomendations for a sweet bulking cycle that would give a relative newbie great gains. (and i don't care if anyone notices) ------------------ ==JeTTsTreaM IP: Logged |
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Joseph_stalin Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 226) |
posted March 09, 2000 11:08 AM
2 g of test isn't enough for a good cycle. you need about 600-800 mg a week of test. so you need to get 4 more grams of testosterone. thats about it. 600-800 mg a week of test, and 30 mg dianabol a day would give good gains, about 20 lbs. of muscle. IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 212) |
posted March 09, 2000 11:22 AM
I would tactifully tell you that at 30% you need to PUT THE HO HO's DOWN & GET UP OFF YOUR FAT ASS AND DO SOME CARDIO! Ok... now that I've calmed my self.... 30% is really to much for you to be thinking about a bulking cycle. You have more than 60lbs of fat just hanging there! Take some time and try to get that BF down. At least in the upper teens or lower 20's. Take a hard look at your diet and workout schedual. LAte Lobo IP: Logged |
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CHISELCHEST Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 44) |
posted March 09, 2000 03:35 PM
HEY FAT ASS GET ON THE FUCKIN TREADMILL!! JUST KIDDIN NOT! REALLY BRO BEFORE MY CURRENT CYCLE I WAS 188LBS 24%BF I WORKED MY WAY DOWN TO 165LBS 14% BF DON'T WAST YOUR TIME WIYH YOUR BF SO HIGH. CARDIO CARDIO CARDIO GETB YOUR SELF IN BETTER SHAPE TO START WITH YOU'LL BE BETTER OFF AND WILL MAKE MUCH BETTER GAINS WHEN YOUHIT THE GEAR GOOD LUCK. IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 339) |
posted March 09, 2000 03:42 PM
Bro, Are you sure about 30% bf? Or is that just a guess, because that is quite high......I'm not going to flame you but if it is really 30% then you need to get it down a little.....before a cycle. Stalin is right that for a first cycle, 600 -800 mg/wk of test is good - I usually advise newbies 750...... One of the reasons you need to lower that bf is because when you are on cycle, you are going to be eating a lot (or you should be) and will be gaining a lot of weight, which could be stressful on the heart. Also being at 30% is unhealthy anyway, for a bunch of reasons. Matt IP: Logged |
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Sittin' On Diesel Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 31) |
posted March 09, 2000 04:41 PM
If you're at 30%, (>22% considered obese FYI) you shouldn't be bulking up. If I were you, I'd would drop a minimum of 30lbs. IP: Logged |
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Dutch Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 37) |
posted March 09, 2000 04:47 PM
It is said that real fat people have more chance of getting gyno.. Dutch, IP: Logged |
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Mr. Nobody Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 33) |
posted March 09, 2000 04:49 PM
hey, I saw you in the gym, the other nite, you are the guy who can squat 1000 lbs, by just exhaling and letting your stomach bounce off your thighs (that was cold), I think 30% is a misprint, chack your typing IP: Logged |
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Mr. Nobody Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 33) |
posted March 09, 2000 04:49 PM
hey, I saw you in the gym, the other nite, you are the guy who can squat 1000 lbs, by just exhaling and letting your stomach bounce off your thighs (that was cold), I think 30% is a misprint, check your typing IP: Logged |
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jettstream Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 27) |
posted March 09, 2000 05:36 PM
Thanks for the flames guys i appreciate it... Any how, i was 255 and cut down to 205lbs before the new year. Since then i've been working out steadily and have cut back on the cardio. 30% was a guess on my part i didn't expect to get flammed i was just asking on advice for dossages, but i can see that E2 is the only person to seek advice from , unless you can prove me wrong. thanks. jeTT p.s. i'm not obese, just ask your mom he he thanks again, i love this board at times like this ------------------ ==JeTTsTreaM IP: Logged |
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TwinGATs Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 29) |
posted March 09, 2000 05:42 PM
I would get more test and take 1 gram a week......About the fat people and gyno...I don't think fat people are more gyno pron, it just shows more like a fat girl with big tittys IP: Logged |
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jettstream Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 27) |
posted March 09, 2000 06:24 PM
bump IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 268) |
posted March 09, 2000 06:35 PM
gimme you waist, neck, arm and forearm measurements as well as your height and weight, and i'll get to the bottom of this one. Also, get more test, try at the very least 600mg per week for ten weeks. And don't forget about clomid.  IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 268) |
posted March 09, 2000 07:35 PM
From your measurements you are about (+- 3.5%)17.9% IP: Logged |
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jettstream Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 27) |
posted March 09, 2000 07:46 PM
ok thank you for your time luke, Can you guys offer advice now? or more flames, i prefer advice...thanks jeTT ------------------ ==JeTTsTreaM IP: Logged |
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Dutch Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 37) |
posted March 09, 2000 07:53 PM
Sorry, won't do it again.. :-) you will have your chance... sorry ! IP: Logged |
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BigBrute Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 57) |
posted March 09, 2000 08:44 PM
Joe Stalin gave you good advice, get more test if you can. otherwise you may be disappointed with your gains. I would only add, ramp up to the dbol on your first cycle. Maybe start with 20mg per day first week then 25mg second week and top out at 30mg third week through 6 weeks then taper off same way while continuing the test out to 10 weeks. I will also add (and this is definately NOT a flame) think about adding an eca stack to your program to lean up during your cycle (I'm doing it right now after some advice I got from the board) and save the nolvadex and clomid for the end of the cycle if you can (unless you start exhibiting gyno symptoms like sore or swollen nipples). Brute IP: Logged |
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jettstream Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 27) |
posted March 10, 2000 03:36 AM
say i have a total of 6 g of test then what would my weekly dosages consist of? would that be too much for a newbie? i don't want to put rocket fuel in the moped...ya know jeTT ------------------ ==JeTTsTreaM IP: Logged |
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Gobler Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 81) |
posted March 10, 2000 04:06 AM
How many cc's does that translate to? Just curios cause im gonna be getting a bottle, i think 50cc but im not sure IP: Logged |
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the truth Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 102) |
posted March 10, 2000 04:30 AM
I like the idea of 600 mg test per week, tapering down to 400 the last couple weeks, for an eight week cycle. You didn't say how much D-bol you have, but 10-15/day for the first five weeks of the cycle should work well with the test. Keep Nolva on hand and don't forget the Clomid (I prefer it ed at end of cycle because Clomid sometimes makes me feel uncomfortable, but if you can tolerate it throughout the cycle it can't hurt). I would say lose as much BF as possible before going on a cycle. Hoard some more gear while you're dieting and you'll be set when it comes time for your cycle. IP: Logged |
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jettstream Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 27) |
posted March 10, 2000 07:58 AM
i have enough dbol for anything
jeTT ------------------ ==JeTTsTreaM IP: Logged |
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the truth Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 102) |
posted March 10, 2000 08:07 AM
Tabs, not mg. I'm conservative but not that conservative. IP: Logged |
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Mr. Nobody Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 33) |
posted March 10, 2000 09:39 AM
ok, I would do this: ECA am before cardio, then 20 min morning cardio, then breakfast, ECA before lunch, then lunch, ECA before W/O, W/O for 1 hr, then 20 min cardio, then dinner gear: 1.5 g test first 3 weeks, 2g test next 3 weeks, 600mg EQ and 2g test for week 6-8, clomid from week 6 until 4 weeks after your last shot, and don't taper the test, if you use cypionate or enanthate. This is my opinium IP: Logged |
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Mr. Nobody Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 33) |
posted March 10, 2000 09:42 AM
I forgot protein shakes in between meals, total protein intake: 300-400g, 2-3 gal of water, no fruits, no juices (except grape with creatine right after W/O) IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 212) |
posted March 10, 2000 10:27 AM
BF% is the single most important data item to determine progress. You need to get a firm grip on this process. Otherwise you will never know what is effective for YOUR SITUATION. Your lack of understanding of this point is key if you expect any long term success. Posting on any board is somewhat of a "trial by fire" for most new folks and if your skin ain't think enough to handle the facts, then you don't really need to messing with roids. Most anyone on here can tell you some good starting points. But again, many on here will tell you that 250mg of test works great - while it may take 750mg for someone else. And some will tell you test should not be used at all for your first cycle. Each of use are the same, yet very different. Take great care to document your progress and learn what works for you. This is big slice of advice here. You may not think so now, but a year or two down the road it will be vastly important - and can save you tremendous amounts of time and money. If I didn't care I wouldn't post, but I don't sugar coat - waste of time. Late Lobo IP: Logged |
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