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deltman
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 08, 2000 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deltman   Click Here to Email deltman     Edit/Delete Message
I've been reading the boards for nearly two months now, and I've looked at a great deal of impressive info regarding possible first time cycles. I'm 40 years old and have been lifting for two years now. I'm 6'2" and weigh 188 with 12% bodyfat. My goal is to be at 200 pounds with 9% bodyfat. I want to put on some muscle, but I'm not looking to get too "freaky". Special thanks to 2 Thick for helping me get this cycle together and I would appreciate input from any of the knowledgeable veterans out there.

SUS250/DECA

WK1 500/200
WK2 250/200
WK3 250/300
WK4 250/200
WK5 250/200
WK6 250/100
WK 7
WK 8 100mg/DAY CLOMID
WK9 50mg/DAY CLOMID

I also have a few more questions to pose.

1.Will I need to get some Nolvadex?
2. What would the estimated cost of this cycle be?
3.I should be able to gain 10-12 pounds of muscle right?
4. How much should I be able to retain?
5 Should I consider using a weight gainer for extra calories?

Thanks in advance for all of your help guys, this board rocks!!!!

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E2
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posted March 08, 2000 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
The cycle is light, i would go longer and harder.

You need novaldex on hand for all cycles just in case.

You may make your goals if this is your first cycle.

Retaining muscle is a personal thing if you eat and train like a madman you should be able to get to and stay at 200.

Yes use weight gainer and all the proetin shakes you can find, i like Super Gainers Fuel by twinlab, it's expensive but packs on the weight.

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BIG_BILLY
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posted March 08, 2000 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG_BILLY   Click Here to Email BIG_BILLY     Edit/Delete Message
What E2 said.

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BIG_BILLY
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 08, 2000 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG_BILLY   Click Here to Email BIG_BILLY     Edit/Delete Message
Also, N-large worked good for me to pack some pounds during my cycle of sust.

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Joey Smalls
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posted March 08, 2000 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joey Smalls   Click Here to Email Joey Smalls     Edit/Delete Message
Great, my first time here and I have to pick a fight with one of the monitors. But seriously, I kind of disagree with E2(but I am probably in the minority on this). You should definitely bring out your cycle to about 10 weeks. And you might want to stagger your cycle.(start the deca two weeks after the sust and continue it for two weeks after stopping the sust). But, at your bodyweight, and with this being your first cycle I think that the amount you have listed should be enough. Just remember to eat big(4000+ cals and 400+ grams protein a day), drink lots of water and get your sleep. You might want to consider using clomid EOD throughout the cycle and then doing the 50/100/50 deal. As for cost you are looking at anywhere from $250-600 depending on where you go to get your stuff. And yes, always have the anti-estrogens on hand(they cost a heck of a lot less than gyno surgery). Hope this helps.

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted March 08, 2000 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Bro,

I would use more sus, and even legthne the cycle by two weeks. Keep it at 500mg/wk maybe - you could even increease to 750 depending on your goals. Remember you are not going to keep ALL the weight you have gained.
The sus is self tapering so you can keep the deca going maybe a week or two longer. I think that was already mentioned.....


Nolva - gotta have it. Hopefully don't have to use it, but you gotta have it.

Cost - it depends on your source. I have seen some people paying over $20/amp of sus - but some can get it for less. You'll probably have to spend a few hundred.

Also, EAT EAT EAT!!!!!!!! The AS are going to increase your protein synthesis - try to gain as uch weight as you can while you are on cycle, than get cut afterwards.....

Good luck,

Matt

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