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El_Rey
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 07, 2000 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for El_Rey   Click Here to Email El_Rey     Edit/Delete Message
i ve heard that sustenon has no side-effects is this true ???
or if which one testo is best ???

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TwinGATs
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posted March 07, 2000 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinGATs   Click Here to Email TwinGATs     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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christian918
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posted March 07, 2000 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for christian918     Edit/Delete Message
Personal opinion...there isn't a HUGE difference between tests. Therefore, dollar for dollar, I like t-200. I can take 600mg of T-200 per week for the same cost as 250mg of sust per week. I like sust, but still feel 600mg of t-200 is better than 250mg of sust.

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BIZ
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posted March 07, 2000 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIZ     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 60842902
This is info from a site and should answer your questions!

BIZ!!

I'm thinking about starting a cycle. What is the best kind of testosterone to use?

This is one of the most common questions I am asked. I had thought about devoting a whole article to this question, as it would allow me to address a lot of fallacies and misconceptions about steroids. Due to time constraints I will answer it here and expand on this discussion at a future date.

Generally two questions are being asked here. One is which ester of testosterone is the most effective. The other is which brand of each ester is the most effective. Let's answer these questions independently.

So what are esters? Well, propionate or cypionate would be examples of these. Esters are chemical groups that are added to steroids for two reasons. First, most steroids are not readily soluble in either water or oil. If you've ever used test suspension or Winstrol V, you can see this demonstrated by the powder that settles at the bottom of each of these products. The addition of ester groups to steroid molecules improves their solubility in oil. Ester groups are also added to steroid molecules to prolong their life in the body. The more carbon atoms in the ester group, the longer the steroid will remain active. For example, propionate has three carbons while cypionate has eight. More on this in a minute.

What brands are best? A couple of things bother me about this question. The person asking this question assumes they can just run out to Steroids-R-Us and pick up whatever brand is on sale. It also identifies you as someone who buys into the lies spread by steroid dealers. What do I mean? Say I'm Rocko, the big European dealer in town. I've got to compete with Sluggo who has the Mexican connect. Now generally, the Mexican gear is going to be cheaper than the European, and Rocko has a deadline to meet. So what does he do? He starts telling everyone who'll listen that his Polish (or Egyptian, Spanish, Russian, whatever) Sustanon is by far a better product than the Mexican Sustanon, which by the way is manufactured in the same place that packages chicken manure for export to the United States. Interesting. He goes on to inform his now captive audience that all European steroids are far superior to those manufactured across the border. Lucky for us he's got a supply of those magical gems handy, huh? What's really funny is to watch these guys backpedal when their European connect dries up and they have to start selling Mexican gear. "Oh yeah, the Mexicans have really improved quality and European gear was just getting way too expensive." I've seen it happen. Real is real. As long as you don't have a counterfeit product, use it!

So, let me answer the initial question. I don't know which one is best. It depends on so many factors that I couldn't possibly list them all here. A few that pop into mind are how long is your cycle? What's the cycle for? Will you be drug tested? What is your goal for this cycle? Will you be using steroids again after this cycle? How long will you wait? Here's a good one: When was the last time you were off?

If someone is planning a lengthy cycle, I'll usually have them use long acting androgens like Sustanon in the beginning, then switch to cypionate or enanthate approximately four weeks out from the end of the cycle. The last two weeks of the cycle would consist of short acting androgens like propionate and suspension. If an athlete were preparing for a drug-tested competition, I'd design something totally different. And if the athlete was like most top amateur and professional bodybuilders, it wouldn't really matter, they don't go off anyway.

Choosing which steroid ester to use is easy when I have all the facts. The problem is that I rarely am provided with the information I need to make the correct decision unless I'm working with an athlete on a 1-1 basis. I know you'd like me to answer this question with an easy answer, like Sustanon 250 or Testosterone Suspension. Sorry, I'd be lying to you if I did.

Can you help me locate steroids? I've always wanted to do a cycle and can't seem to locate any around where I live.

"Really? Hold on for a second, I'll flip through my Rolodex. Acid dealers, coke, heroin, no, pot, getting really close now, ah, here we are, steroid dealers. Ok, got a really good guy here, mention my name when you call him and he gives you a 20% good member discount. His number is ��."

HEY PEOPLE! Wake up. Simply because we sometimes write about steroids doesn't mean that we help you find them. They're out there, trust me. There are also a lot of scammers who will take your money, so be careful. Oh and by the way, there is that little issue of legality.

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MiniMic
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 07, 2000 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiniMic   Click Here to Email MiniMic     Edit/Delete Message
Well said BIZ!! Also very informative.

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The Ranger
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted March 07, 2000 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message
Good one BIZ.....That Jason M. is a trip isn't he Bro!

Ranger

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