posted March 07, 2000 04:44 PM         

I am over 40 years old, been lifting over 5 years and have maintained a 240 lb body weight (6'1" tall). However been stuck at 240 for about a year. Same goes for my strength - haven't progress like I would like (does anyone?) and am considering AS to break through. Would like to eventually get to 280-300. Don't know if I can -- but will try.

I am very scientific in my approach to everything -- so I want to do this like a logical next step -- I do not wish to abuse -- but use.

By the way: this is my first cyle ever. However I have been using prohormones religiously since MuscleTech introduced.

Everything I have read is pretty basic. Now my questions:

1. Does weight dictate the amount one should use (180 lb person use 500 mg of sus250 while a 240 lb person uses 750 mg).

2. Can you use prohormones at the end of the cycle to kick start you back.

3. I wish to use Sus250/Dbol/Eq. At my age will this provide what I want (Mass and Strength)? I plan on using the hit-them-hard-first' and then taper down since this is my first time.

4. Any advice on MRP (I use CellTech/MuscleTech/NitroTech and MetRx religiously).

Thanks for all the information. This is a well-needed discussion for people who are information starved for unbiased data. Every place I have tried to get information all they talk about is this study/that study all done by Mediacal Professionals that blast the use of AS because of all the side-effects. However, they seem to overlook the overwhelming evidence of benefits when used in a educated, controlled approach.

posted March 07, 2000 05:28 PM            

Weight doesn't matter on the sus. Your goals will dictate how much to take. Important to remember that your first cycle is the one on which you will gain the most.

Your use of prohormones will not adversely affect your potential to gain. Jumping up to 280-300 from 240 will take some time though.

If you take clomid throughout your cycle, you will not need a "kickstart" back to natural testosterone output. I don't think prohormones would do that anyway - they are just an external source of testosterone like AS, only much weaker.

The use of clomid is detailed throughout old posts. You can use it either all cycle or atthe end. I prefer to use it at the end.

As far as d-bol, I don't really care for it but when I have used it I have used up to 40mg/day. There is a post on here about using 100mg/day or more - check it out.

You can lay off the creatine while you are on. But increase your protein intake as high as you can - AS increases protein synthesis.

Creatine is good after the cycle to help you keep your gains.

Any more questions email me.

posted March 07, 2000 10:27 PM            

To reach your goal of 300lbs is going to take some times. Several cycles dont' expect it to all happen at once, and to reach that weight you're going to have to take some serious amount of juice. most people will never reach 300.

The use of prohormones is just a complete waste of money. Drop them from your regimin.

Sust debol and eq should give you some nice gains. I'd suggest 750 sust straight through tapering at the end, 6dbol/day ist 5 weeks tapering slightly, and 600mg eq shot eod 4cc.

Try proteinfactory.com and kilosports.com

posted March 08, 2000 11:18 AM         

I plan on using prohormones between cycles and also near the end. Since I don't have access to Clomid (still looking), I'll try prohomones until I do. Hopefully I will find some before I start.

One question, in the initial cycle, with everything balanced, what is the maximum weight and strength increases should I see given my weight and height. I would like to see between 15-20 lbs at least. Is this feasible.

If not, what should I substitute?

posted March 08, 2000 03:01 PM            

while you are on steroids, your body shuts down its natural testosterone production (your testicles will shrink, because they are temporarely shut down). When you stop taking steroids, you don't have any testosterone going into your body. And you need test to maintain a postive/neutral nitrogen balance. So you need to restart your bodys natural testosterone production as fast as you can to avoid the negative nitrogen balance that occurs between when you stop taking steroids and when your testicles start to work again. which is what clomid is for.

clomid will trick your body into producing testosterone. your testicles will start working much quicker on clomid than they would if you just waited for your testosterone production to restart naturally. So the amount of time your body spends in a negative nitrogen balance (a catabolic state which will destroy muscle) is shortened drastically.