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big_dan Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 37)	posted March 06, 2000 01:50 PM First, Should I take 500 or 750 of sus, I ask becuase I only weigh 168lbs @ 13%bf And I know everyone is different & I'll have to test my tolerance But How do know if I'm taking to much? side effects? Second, I Pretty sure I'm prone to water retetion so what else should i take that won't make retain crazy H2O? winny? week sus clomid 1 500 2 " 3 " 4 " 5 " 6 " 100 7 " " 8 " " 9 " 10 " Where do I add the winny or whatever? So that's 15amps of sus & 2 boxes of clomid. Should I go W/ ready-jects? Do They take U.S. $$'s Someone please reply or e-mail me off line ------------------ big bad dan IP: Logged
1AbBIG Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 110)	posted March 06, 2000 02:15 PM Hey big dan. this was posted by e2 on another post so i just copied for you . this is some great advice and should do you well. sust Primo 750 500 500 500 500....400 500....400 250....400 .......400 .......400 .......300 .......200 Clomid eod during the whole cycle, then on 8 start 100mg/day for 2 weeks, then 50mg/day for another 3. ------------------ "GETTING BIG AND STAYING STRONG IS THE SECRET" IP: Logged
beerbarbq Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 91)	posted March 06, 2000 02:20 PM Winny will not reverse or stop the water retaining effects of the test it just wont cause much on its own, drink lots of water all day everyday and that will probably lessen your water retention problem greatly, seriously. IP: Logged
MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 294)	posted March 06, 2000 02:22 PM Dan, 1st cycle? I would go 750 mg/wk of sus or even 1000. 500 will give you some gains, but decide what your fitness goals are before picking a dose. If it's your first cycle it will be your best gaining cycle so you may want to hit it extra hard. I have done cycles of 750 - 1000/wk, and I have a friend on 1000/wk now. Winny will lower water retention but it is tough on your liver. I don't care for it. As far as side effects, if you are hair loss prone, Nizorla shampoo can help.....if you're not prone then don't sweat it. As far as gyno, use the clomid and have some nolvadex available - take it at the first sign of gyno..... Any questions email me Matt IP: Logged
dogboy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 51)	posted March 06, 2000 03:48 PM 1AbBig, Is that cycle for a first timer? Why the big 750 shock at the beginning? You won't make gains on anything less than 500? Just curious, could you replace the Primo with Winny tabs? IP: Logged
tray renfro Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 275)	posted March 06, 2000 04:02 PM i would diffently through in some primo at the end. ------------------ tray renfro?!?! gotta cumm up IP: Logged
1AbBIG Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 110)	posted March 06, 2000 04:14 PM Ok , in the first week, you want to hit the receptors hard, then you could stay at 500mg the rest of the cycle if you like. i would rather taper it down to 250mg at the end so it will not be such a drop off. sus is a self tapering AS so you will not need to go any lower then 250mg. you could use winny tabs instaed of primo depot but the cost will get to be very expensive. also it is easier to inject the primo once a week versus taking the tabs everyday,or injecting yourself everyday with winny. primo would make a great substitute for you . yes, this is designed for a beginner . hopefully i answered your question. ------------------ "GETTING BIG AND STAYING STRONG IS THE SECRET" IP: Logged
scourge1 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 94)	posted March 06, 2000 07:34 PM As far as hitting receptors or tapering up or down. I don't think I've seen data to alude to the efficiency of upregulating or downregulating. I've seen guys who taper up, guys who taper down and guys who go straight across. All have had good results. I don't pyramid myself and have seen nothing anectdotal to reflect one side or the other. Any info on this would be cool... IP: Logged
big_dan Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 37)	posted March 06, 2000 09:10 PM Thanks all. You helped out alot. I think I'll go wth primo. ------------------ big bad dan IP: Logged

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