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tri~zilla Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 13) |
posted March 06, 2000 11:59 AM
 
i was thinking of using sust-250 500mg. a week for 6-7weeks, and add some primo-depot 200.mgs a week around the fourth week to keeep my gains what do you think? IP: Logged |
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tri~zilla Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 13) |
posted March 06, 2000 12:53 PM
basically like this, WEEKS is this a good way to keep the gains, is there a better way? i'm open to all suggestions, you guys are miles ahead of me IP: Logged |
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Rodden Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 16) |
posted March 06, 2000 12:56 PM
500mg/week of Sust for 6-7 weeks is almost exactly what I did for 3 straight cycles. I threw in a little testoviron depot around weeks 5-7, but that's it. I've only done 3 cycles total, all of them using Sustanon250. I liked what I researched on Sustanon and got the opinion early on that is was the "best" steroid. I was 220lbs and fuckin' CHUBBY! I lost 50 lbs during my first two cycles (weird, I know!) but I ate right and cardio-d my ASS off! Sust helped CUT ME huge! I was shocked at all the muscle I had under all that chub. This is not normal. I should have put on weight not lost it. Confident going into my 3rd cycle, I used nothing but sust again. Huge mistake! My receptors were saturated and didn't recognize any of it (pissing money away, literally). While 170 lbs lean muscle, I sought to bulk up the right way (w/out all the fat clinging to me). Didn't happen w/sust. Anyway, here is what I think you should do (although ask E2, he seems to be the REAL authority on all this, in my opinion anyway): 1. If you're looking to keep gains, I've learned this much: You have to mix up the juice! Receptor saturation happens fairly quickly. How did you make your previous gains? Was it on sust or primo? If yes, then don't use them again. Go with Deca and something else (a cutter like winny or equipoise). Keeping gains is the hardest part of doing steroids. That's probably why it's so habitual (and addictive). Crashing sucks! Rodden the Opiniated One IP: Logged |
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Rodden Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 16) |
posted March 06, 2000 01:04 PM
Oops, I didn't read (or notice) that this was your first time using gear. Sorry. Sounds like a good cycle to me. Sustanon is awesome for newbies. Primo is good too because it's mild and the gains are basically permanent. You should get some clomid. Also, start a journal. I have found that keeping a list of what I eat, lift, weigh, and inject is invalueable later on. Hopefully someone better than me will answer your post. Good Luck!!!! Rodden the Fellow Newbie IP: Logged |
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E2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1224) |
posted March 06, 2000 01:36 PM
I like the priciple of the cycle but i'd like to change some things sust Primo Clomid eod during the whole cycle, then on 8 start 100mg/day for 2 weeks, then 50mg/day for another 3. You should do well off this. IP: Logged |
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tri~zilla Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 13) |
posted March 06, 2000 02:28 PM
this will probably sound smartass like but... if i start high won't i saturate my receptors first? are you kinda wanting to create a jump start effect? tri~ IP: Logged |
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Rodden Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 16) |
posted March 06, 2000 02:46 PM
Saturating your receptor sites happens not with too many steroids (in quantity), but rather with a same steroid taken over an extended period of time. For instance, I had awesome effects on my first 2 sust cycles, it was only w/ my 3rd that nothing really happened because I had saturated my receptors. I could have taken 750-1000 mgs of sust a week on my 3rd, it wouldn't have mattered. It all was "rejected" by my receptor sites. That's why you want to mix the juice-types as often as you can. The term "stacking" is probably used because of this very philosophy. E2's cycle schedule is essential because it "pyramids" the juice giving your receptors a quick hit, followed by a nice taper. Don't forget clomid. Rodden the clomid-less IP: Logged |
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The Ranger Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 380) |
posted March 06, 2000 05:12 PM
Tri, On your first cycle, it will be your best, and yield the greatest gains. Most everyone here would like to have that 1st cycle over Bro! Listen to E2, you want to blast those recpters from the start, if you could add a little dbol weeks 1 thru 4 until the sus kicks in, I think you will be most pleased with the results!! Ranger IP: Logged |
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Mojo Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 17) |
posted March 06, 2000 05:31 PM
You helped me make up my mind.I'm going to use this for my first cycle too. Thanks for all the great advice. Everyone. Just reading for now. Not wasting space. I'll let you know how it's going when I get my juice. There's so many post on cycles, I could'nt make up my mind, but this is what I was looking for. Thanks E-2! IP: Logged |
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tri~zilla Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 13) |
posted March 08, 2000 07:07 PM
thanks everyone, i would add d-bol but i have had to keep an eye on my tits for gyno all ready while i was going through puberty, i'm not looking forward to that again. you think i should stack with something else that doesn't arromatize? IP: Logged |
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the truth Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 86) |
posted March 09, 2000 05:50 AM
The modified cycle that E2 laid out is a good one. If you're prone to gyno, keep some Nolvadex on hand and use it if you start to itch in the nipple area. IP: Logged |
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