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CB38AC
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 04, 2000 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
Getting ready for first cycle and spring break check this out it is a very risky first cycle but I think it really fits all my goals: Add 15++ poinds of solid muscle and drop 8 pounds fat (A bit optimistic in that area i know) while looking and feeling good for spring break in week 6.

This cycle may seem strange but from what i have learned should work.

Day 1-A50 50mg + 200mg test cyp + clomid
Day 2-A50 50mg
Day 3-same (clomid)
Day 4-same
Day 5-A50 100mg + 200mg test cyp (Nolva/clomid depending on symptoms)
Day 6-A50 100mg Day 7-same (N/C)
Day 8-same (N/C)
Day 9-A50 100mg + 200mg test cyp (N/C)
Day10-A50 100mg (N/C)
Day11-same (N/C)
Day12-A50 50mg (C)
Day13-A50 50mg +200 mg test cyp
Day14-same(C)

First two weeks had to be layed out this way sorry (N= nolva C=clomid)

Week 3-600mg test cyp + 200mg primo (more if i can get the money)+clomid EOD (N if needed)
EAT LIKE A HORSE TO KEEP A-50 gains

Week 4-DNP* 300-400mg a day (300 mainly)
200mg test cyp + 600mg primo (gains while on calorie restricted diet why not DNP also?)

Week 5- 600mg test cyp. (anabloic rebound form DNP can use some "help")Clomid 50mg a day

Week 6- Clomid 100mg a day + 100mg test susp 2x durring the week
+ A 12 pack a night 5 days durring the week (LOL it spring break)
+ 1 hot naked girl whose name i dont know a day

Week 7- clomid 100mg a day
Week 8- clomid 50mg a day

Conservative? LOL what do you guys think of this for a first cycle?

PLEASE NEED HELP WITH DNP! only thig i cant seem to find a supplier of. E-mail me if you can get capsules ASAP. thanks bros I plan to be around this board for a while its great.


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CB38AC
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posted March 04, 2000 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone got ideas or comments?

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big_guy1
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posted March 05, 2000 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_guy1   Click Here to Email big_guy1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5126477
this is your frist cycle...let me say this one more time, a-50 is not for beginners..and with that losw testo youwill never keep any gains off of a-50..save yourself the trouble, youare a begginer keep it simple, hit testo at at least 600 mg per week, ad either d-bol, or mayber deca, finish with clomid...in short, stay away from a-50 for awhile...and also that long on a-50 would kill your liver...

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CB38AC
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posted March 05, 2000 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
The A-50 is already on the way. oh well paid for it gotta take it

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big_guy1
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posted March 05, 2000 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_guy1   Click Here to Email big_guy1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5126477
well bro.I hope it is fake first off....second, SAVE IT FOR LATER..it won't go bad for awhile...get you head on right, don't take a-50 the first cycle..only a complete idiot would take a-50 for the first cylce, and only a retart would stay on a-50 that long....sorry to be so blunt, but don't be an idiot...if you choose to do this cycle, it was nice knowing you, cause you will prob die of liver failure...

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CB38AC
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posted March 05, 2000 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
Ddidn't you say you were going to do 4 weeks on A-50 for your vnext cycle in anouther post. how quikly we forget. And no i can't save it as i have to beg, stela and lye in order to get enough money for what i need already. I see what your saying but...dunno

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big_guy1
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posted March 05, 2000 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_guy1   Click Here to Email big_guy1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5126477
dude, 4 wks is a lot different then 14..I mean 14 wks on a-50 will kill ya....and you siad you want to put on 15 lbs of solid muscle,a nd drop 8 lbs of fat..on another note, a-50 won't do this, the 15 lbs at least, but lots of water too...just another comment for you to think about bro...

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CB38AC
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posted March 05, 2000 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
i say 14 DAYS!!! HAHA

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 05, 2000 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
14 days of a-50
read it closely
this cycle looks fine but I would hold off on the dnp until week 5 but since you seem to be on tight time schedule it ought to be fine.
although a-50's are not the best for first cycle there is nothing wrong with them. I personally think that the risk of side effects is rather high- however even that varies considerably.

here is what I do not like about your cycle
I realize that you want to be horny and jacked during spring break but mixing suspension and alcohol is not a good Idea. I would take propionate- it is better anyways and I would drink GHB instead- plus there are lost of other fun pharmies down there to get buzzed off of. if you are going to drink take even more clomid and try not to drink every day- maybe alternate with other supplements g, pain killer, valium etc.
just my opinion.

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CB38AC
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posted March 05, 2000 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
Is ghb readily available in the bahamas?

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 05, 2000 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
I have no Idea- bring it with you- it looks just like water. I thought you were going to mexico so I guess the pharmies idea is out. if you cant get ghb it is still possible to order gbl and 1,4 butanediol (renewtrient and soma solution) which are not quite as good but the effect is similiar.

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LV 426
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 05, 2000 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LV 426   Click Here to Email LV 426     Edit/Delete Message
this is not really anything to do with dosages
but i think when your on a cycle
IT SHOULD BE YOUR NUMBER ONE CONCERN
sleep,nutrition and training
A-50's are a harsh mistress
i think that your post cycle activities will
be detrimental to any gains your hopin to
keep
maybe i'm wrong and this won't affect you
at all
and make sure you take something to help
your liver out
E2 i mean Rock Man had a good post for this

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CB38AC
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posted March 05, 2000 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
What i was really thinking when i posted this is that i had some good theories. First bump up my wieght with A-50 then try to solidify with Test at a higher dosage (600mg is decent for a first timer and i may do 800 need opinions) and eat like a HOG. Then loose this fat i will gain with DNP and since primo i good for low call use it to maintain or even gain durring this week while cutting test so to limit sides (dnp has enough of its own). Then use test again to help the anabolic rebound of dnp. Lastly use suspension while on spring break to stay pschced up, avaoid the clomid sides of sesativity (there will be no time for feelings haha) and as a short acting test which will both maintain my gains durring this potentially catabloic trip and a taper dosage. Thats why i said greta idead. I think this is a good cycle. Any opinions on my theories.

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Les
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posted March 05, 2000 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Les   Click Here to Email Les     Edit/Delete Message
I agree, I took A50 my first time and I looked like shawn ray..then 2 weeks after the cycle I looked like sugar ray...stay away from A50 for now

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 05, 2000 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
once again, I see no real problems with your cycle other than the ones I mentioned. everybody talks about losing their A-50 gains in the posts on this thread but none of them used the follow that you have proposed- it should work very well- eat, eat, eat- sleep,sleep,sleep, train- get the picture.

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