posted March 03, 2000 10:00 PM            

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OH HELL YA!!!!

posted March 03, 2000 10:14 PM            

not only are they not as effective they lose their effectiveness and suppress thyroid making weight regain more likely

dnp always works
it actually works better to burn fat as your own natural thyroid levels drop which reduces the minimal muscle catabolism caused by DNP.

every thing else was right on target- lifestyle changes are almost always necessary to make any changes in your physique whether it is in regards to fat or muscle.

posted March 03, 2000 10:44 PM            

So here's the deal: You admitted yourself that you are not overwieght. I have seen so many beautiful woman starving themselves that it pains me to think that you are this desperate to loose even more.

Haven't you ever seen the 75lb girls that still think of themselves as fat when they make a Somalian child look like a cow ready for slaughter? I have no idea what your problem areas are, or how much you are indeed overwieght. My family is Norweigian for the most part. All of us are over 6' and we have HUGE bone structures. My sister is a big girl, I'm 6'4" 295(but not fat) but she still has bigger wrists than I do! Perhaps you need to look at the whole picture. Bone structure and pelvic shape of a woman have A LOT to do with how they store fat. Some women will never have a nice butt though the rest of them is perfect. Some will always have a little pouch in the front.

I dreamed of being a bodybuilder once. When I figured out that guys like Jean Peirre Fux, and Greg Kovacs fail miserably in this sport I reassessed my goals. I'm now a tire flipper. I will be competing in some strongman contest this summer as well as some of the Fireman's challenges you can watch on ESPN at about 3am in the morning.

My point is this. I knew I was never meant to be a ripped up bodybuilder. Drugs can do wonders, but I wasn't going to subject myself to that torture. I'll do my gram of test a week and be just fine. I don't need insulin and all the other shit that can KILL you if you mess up with the slightest thing.

I only hope you are doing this with a clear frame of mind, and that you are not 5'6" and ninety eight pounds with your ribs and pelvis poking out. I know I am being over protective, just don't want to hear another fat horor story on dateline one night.

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OH HELL YA!!!!

posted March 03, 2000 11:04 PM            

You really didn't believe me did you. I tried tot tell you the same stuff on the diet discussion board, but you just won't listen will you. I agree that you probably do work hard as allof us do, but you need to take a closer look at yourself and realize wahat you are doing is not working and as hard as it may seem try something different. First get your mind-set and your diet in check, then (maybe) add some drugs. Danni, I know I was kind of harsh in your previous posts on the "diet discussion board" but you have to realize that this is constructive criticism, and I was only trying to help.

posted March 04, 2000 12:37 AM         

You can do it! Your the fuckin' man(or woman)! Don't forget it!

posted March 04, 2000 04:10 AM            

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lift eat grow!!!

posted March 04, 2000 02:42 PM            

You just bumped this message to the top. No complaints, of course. But I'm interested to know what questions you might have that the experienced bro's here haven't already addressed?

Another thing that is a bit disturbing is the sense of desperation you are communicating. Geez, health and fitness is something for the long term, and I absolutely 100% agree that diet, nutrition, and exercise are lifestyle issues.

You've said that you've completely changed your eating habits and that you work out a lot. Then you said you had been fasting, which, in my opinion, is contradictory to a healthy lifestyle.

Maybe I've got it wrong, but it just seems to me that maybe you're not all that far along in your health and fitness regimen. And maybe that you're looking for a Magic Pill or something. And maybe that taking DNP could be even dangerous for you.

posted March 04, 2000 04:37 PM            

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even my battle with death could only keep me out of the gym for 35 days

posted March 04, 2000 05:38 PM            

In my opinion, most people can't reach their fitness (appearance) goals until they have a good idea of how their body will react to certain stimuli (different diets, workout schedules, exercises, drugs, etc.). Some of this will come from your own experimentation, some from other people's experiences. It's kind of like playing mad scientist with your body.

From the descriptions of you workout and eating habits, it sounds like you're taking the more (or less, as far as eating) is better attitude and this is hardly ever the case. Your body is very smart and it'll adapt. It's the quality of your efforts which is important, not the quantity.

I'd suggest getting some recommendations from the board and doing some reading on the net. While you'll never know all the processes which occur in your body when you exercise and diet, there are some basics you must understand so that you can formulate a regimine which has a good chance of getting you where you want to be. If you want to use DNP, you should use it maybe to take off the last 10 pounds or so, which will probably be the toughest for you. Like Dexter said, don't look for some magic pill. You seem to be very determined and that's half the battle. I'm sure that you'll eventually reach your goals.

posted March 06, 2000 01:27 AM            

livinbig

posted March 08, 2000 02:40 AM            

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even my battle with death could only keep me out of the gym for 35 days