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packy
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posted March 03, 2000 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for packy   Click Here to Email packy     Edit/Delete Message
After seeing the Fina/DMSO posts it got me to thinking. How about mixing the pro-hormones (andro, norandrao, etc.) with DMSO and applying to the skin? From what I know, the compoundings would be carried through into the bloodstream, but I don't know much about DMSO.

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scourge1
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posted March 03, 2000 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scourge1   Click Here to Email scourge1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 2877127
Why??
Do you really want to smell severely like garlic?

Prohormones are absorbed just fine when taken orally. At the most I'd maybe get those sublinguals from Pinacle. But no reason to waste your time on DMSO, unless you really like the smell.

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scourge1
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posted March 03, 2000 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scourge1   Click Here to Email scourge1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 2877127
Don't bother, no need to stink like a wet dog for no reason. More prohormones will get passed into the blood if taken orally. DMSO (anectdotally) only allows about two thirds of the mixture through.

If you're bent on absorbtion, get those sublingual andros from Pinacle.

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packy
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posted March 03, 2000 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for packy   Click Here to Email packy     Edit/Delete Message
The reason I asked was because as I understand it, when the prohormones are taken orally, they are first shunted straight to the liver where much of them are promptly metabolized. Does this sound correct to you guys?

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Sittin' On Diesel
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posted March 03, 2000 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sittin' On Diesel   Click Here to Email Sittin' On Diesel     Edit/Delete Message
I think it sounds like it *might* be viable alternative to juicing . I've sent an email to Patrick Arnold on the subject and he thinks that it would be a good way to take the prohormones (specifically, twice a day application). I'm sending another email to him asking about the % conversion etc. I think that 4-AD or 19-NOR-AD would be the stuff to use. From what I understand, about 10-15% is utilized when taken orally (4-AD). I belive that the DMSO should transfer all of the prohormones to the bloodstrem when prepared correctly. I've never used it before, so I can only speculate on how good it will be. I still don't know how bad you'll stink using the stuff, but thats what showers, breathmints, and cologne is for. If it makes us diesel, then FUCK IT!!!

If anyone has actually tried this concoction, please post your thoughts on it. I'm thinking about buying some 4-AD bulk from LPJ (just powder). It will be interesting to see how well it works. If it works for Finaplix-H, then it *should* be ok. I don't expect it to even compare with a cycle of Equipose but if no one tries it- then no one will know! I think that those andro poppers (sublingual stuff) is straight bullshit from the donkeys ass just like the homeopathic HGH sprays or the stuff that everyone sees: "BEAST! Anything stronger is illegal!". God, I hate that stuff.

TRAIN HARD!

[This message has been edited by Sittin' On Diesel (edited March 03, 2000).]

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El_Rey
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posted March 03, 2000 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for El_Rey   Click Here to Email El_Rey     Edit/Delete Message
isnt it made for taken in the mouth and it takes up to 30 minuts before its finish?
thats better for the liver or something?

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bignate73
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posted March 03, 2000 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bignate73   Click Here to Email bignate73     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 65081685
any thoughts on medlean's transdermal? androstederm and norandrostederm? supposedly transdermal, i cant find what they use to get it through the skin though. ive used the andro version but im a disbeliever in its effectiveness so i stopped.

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AZQuadz
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posted March 03, 2000 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AZQuadz   Click Here to Email AZQuadz     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54353319
Hey Big Nate....Come on man you used to work with the biggest dealer..remember? Ha Ha? Just give him a call and see what's up and what he believes.

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Sittin' On Diesel
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posted March 03, 2000 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sittin' On Diesel   Click Here to Email Sittin' On Diesel     Edit/Delete Message
Tried the Norandrostederm by MedLean (sp?). It sucked. I can't believe they peddle that stuff as being an actual medical testosterone replacement.


El-Rey- the stuff you buy in a store are made in capsule form. If you get it bulk (or take the powder out of the capsules) and mix it with DMSO, it should be ok. DMSO is a carrier chemical and it will provide transport to your bloodstream. Patrick Arnold, "The Father of Prohormones" said it would work, so I belive him.

His web page- www.lpjresearch.com

TRAIN HARD!

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Dino Strong
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posted March 03, 2000 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dino Strong   Click Here to Email Dino Strong     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 60905516
You can apply pro-hormones with DMSO but only if it is in raw powder form. You can't just open a capsule and apply it w/DMSO because most companys use other ingredients or fillers that you don't want passing into your blood stream.

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Sittin' On Diesel
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posted March 03, 2000 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sittin' On Diesel   Click Here to Email Sittin' On Diesel     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah- you're right about the capsule thing.

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DOGGY
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posted March 04, 2000 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DOGGY     Edit/Delete Message
bro's if patrick arnold said its okay
and will work, then its worth a try..
he is one real supplement guru. DOGGY

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Czar
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posted March 05, 2000 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Czar   Click Here to Email Czar     Edit/Delete Message
What will work even better is a eod injection of 4-ad. If you look around on the boards hard enough I bet you can find someone who sells kits

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grosso
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posted March 06, 2000 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for grosso     Edit/Delete Message
Just go to the supplement discussion board and look for my post on prohormones called "FAQ PROHORMONES by new guru". It's very interesting and has a lot of answers you are looking for (conversion rate , side effects , comments).

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