posted March 01, 2000 12:52 AM         

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I recently posted a survey I read somewhere about 75%-80% of individuals who use recreational drugs, IE: cocaine, marijuana, speed, alcohol...., had the opinion that anabolic steroids were very dangerous and felt that individuals using them were going to suffer the health risks associated with them. I wanted to tell you an experience I had at the gym. I was working out when I overheard some high school kids talking about steroids. You know, the same stuff you always hear, jealous boy talk about who is on, what an idiot, I'm clean...., now here is what I think is funny. I am a teacher at the middle school they attended. I was told by a janitor that he caught this group smoking weed behind the dumpster one morning before school last year. It made me think of that survey I read. Now here is the question I am getting to....Why and how did the law do it? Here in the US the majority of people hear the word steroids and FREAK OUT like the stuff was cyanide! They always try to use exmples of people like Lyle Alzado, or somebody they saw on an HBO afterschool special. They choose to listen, and thats fine. What I don't understand is when drugs like alcohol, smoking, coke, or pot come around, an overwhelming majority of these hypocritical children and adults choose to use them, even though there are far many more cases of celebreties, children, adults overdosing and deaths to use as examples. Shit, most of them probably know someone who has died. It baffles me? Say NO to drugs seems to have become successful with steroids but nothing else. What do you think? Says a lot about the examples we are setting to our youth.

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posted March 01, 2000 01:11 AM            

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"THE AARON HENRY STORY"

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posted March 01, 2000 01:11 AM            

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Most people including kids are misinformed about anabolics. They read horrific stories about athletes and immediatly label them the enemy. Most kids are don't know anyone who can get them anabolics or cannot afford them. Rec. drugs are easy to posess, 65% of their parents have them in the house and accessible to the child. And since anabolics have such noticable physical changes people are scared of them. We need to focus our efforts on the hard drugs that are taking over the youth of today (EXCTASY) and lay off anabolics which, only if taken properly and the correct dosages, 95% of the time will only help you become stronger and help our society with their self-esteem. Anabolics give you a reason to respect and adore the temple.

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posted March 01, 2000 01:43 AM         

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the only thing we as a society need to do about anabolics is educate people, and not this stupid bullsh%t politician agenda crap. the truth needs to be out there instead of the worst case scenarios. as for street drugs they just need to be eleminated. as soon as we can find a way that no one can make a profit from selling street drugs the problem is gone

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posted March 01, 2000 01:47 AM            

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it has to do with the bad rep..all you ever hear about roids is bad..as for other drugs you always hear about medical benefits, like the new one with week, that is decreases the likelyhood of brain cancer in monkey...damn afterschool specials..lol...

big-guy

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posted March 01, 2000 09:08 AM            

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I agree with all of you, but what I can't understand is the fact that no matter how much death goes on with recreational drugs, people still will use them and dog bodybuilders. I believe this opinion comes from the jealousy of the general public. Recreational drugs are quick, and get the desired effect immediately, where steroids do not. It gets complicated even further when there are counterfeits so readily available. There is an excuse to use with steroids. Plus it is hard work. Something most people in the US are not aware of. The desired results rarely ever are achieved by steroids. There does seem to be a lot of jealousy here in the US. Your society is to blame for that one. It is very sad that here one sport that is dominated by steroids and GH (Football), is regarded so highly here and the hard work is recognized. Yet bodybuilding is looked at by most as it is easy. I have only been here a month, but I already see what a lot of you talk about. It's weird. It has been rumored in Spain that the FDA is very corrupt here. I believe it. How much money have you spent on this so called WAR ON DRUGS. The U.S. is the only country who has ever proclaimed war on it's own people. After over 30years of no success with this so called war, even an idiot would have tried something different by now. This is kind of a scary place to me. I don't understand why you throw your people in jail over something so stupid. The stuff is imported. I don't see cocaine or poppys growing on the street corner here? Yet most of the people here agree with raiding someones home, taking their kids, and everything they own. Even my country would never do that over something so small. SOmething is going on here and unfortunately most people here don't even see it. Jesus, an idiot could get this country out of debt just by stopping all this dictatorship over telling people what they can and can't do. With all the money you are wasting in courts and jail, it's no wonder you are in debt. I guess I'm going natural for a while.

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posted March 01, 2000 11:13 AM            

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pop-culture my brothas. i can remember when weed was mainly for the stoners and heavy metal guys. then dr dre comes out with the chronic and everyone wants to smoke weed. maybe we need to get him to make a song about roids??? hehe

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posted March 01, 2000 11:40 AM            

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I agree with the pop culture statement. Also, people are extremely misinformed about gear.
A friend of mine smokes weed on a regular basis, and when he found out I used a couple of cycles of juice. He was trying to preach to me about the dangers.
lol..One of his little arguments was "It make your dick shrink" Which didn't shock me, because I remember back in high school and our little "stay away from drugs" speech and the counselor told us by using juice, your dick gets small, and even then, (I wasn't using then, but I was reading as much as I could) when I tried to explain that he was wrong, I was suspendant for 3 days for being a disruptive student and some other BS.
Miseducation, and how popular it is to get high, is why weed and other forms of dope are "cool" while juice is the evil monster that even the most popular weed smoker must stay away from.
one more case, and I'll be on my way. I had a death in the family last month, and my aunt was there with her hubby and kids, when hubby was upstairs, I was getting ice water, her and her kids were drinking coffee, kids are like 13, 14 and 16. and I'm not sure how many times I heard my aunt mention how she's going to get high. Her and her oldest girl kept talking about getting high. I was like WTF?
And she says how much bigger I am then when I was a kid, how she thought I was going to grow up to be a bean pole. And her son, joked and said he's prolly on roids.
Her responce was, "I don't care if you're an adult or not, I'll kick your ass if you're on that shit."
Which i thought was funny as hell, since she just got done saying how badly she needs to smoke some dope. lol

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posted March 01, 2000 11:48 AM            

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Hey let me tell you something Before I started to read this board and other site's That's what I thought I am now conducting my research for my first cycle. Everything All y'all wrote is true This is what I pick up on from hearing wanna be-iropumpin' bitches: They either say shit like I'm natural Or He's only that big because He's on Juice (like juice changes your total genetic code or the hours of back breaking blood sweat and tears you give up day after day in the gym). Yes' Right now I'm a "gear virgin" But Not because I think I going to become a shriveled dicked balded bitch, But because I 'm only 22 And don't want to Jump the gun. It just pisses me off when people playa hate because they can't gain any muscle. "Well I could be that big to if I took roids to" That one amuses the hell out of me. And it's like, Not likely pal You gotta go to the gym, Hell first you gotta get a membership to one. I get that shit right now:" Well I could lift as much as you if I took all that crap you took" (protien, creatine, e/c/a). I used to get made but now I just laugh.

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posted March 01, 2000 12:18 PM            

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Gentlemen, It is an honor to hang (or post) with guys like yourselfs on this web site. Topics like this one and the responses that it generates, shows that just because you lift, and workout hard, your not a muscle head.....Exercise your body, and mind...The two go hand in hand...This is why I have stayed around to read and occasionally post responses to these topics... I have learned alot and hope this site stays around along time...Thanks everyone who understands what I am trying to say... And those of you who don't, you will keep posting about eating pussy....!

NoLimits....

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posted March 01, 2000 12:28 PM            

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Man i agree with all of you guys. I can't stand when people give me that line of crap "if you ever use steroids i will never talk to you again," Yeah right. Why is it ok for me to have to watch you kill yourself and destroy your liver by consuming gallons of alcohol every weekend. to later find out that your dumb drunk ass drove home on top of it all, risking someone elses life.
And then you go and tell me how much you are gonna hate me for hitting a cycle, training hard, looking better, only putting myself at any risk for any form of danger, and overall improving my self esteem and in some cases my health. Screw off.
I believe its what most have been saying the entire time here UNEDUCATED fools that make assumptions about juice.
One of the biggest differences i see between recreational drugs and steroids is that you need to know your different forms of juice to accomplish what your looking for. Unlike weed or coke, exstacy, etc.. Steroids are not just one form of the drug like those others.
you don't see Coacain depot, Exstacy suspension, Mariguanna Cypionate, Acid 250...... When you buy weed you can expect similar results everytime and it doesn't matter how much you take in.
Us guys using gear have to log and follow strict guidelines as to when the next injection comes or the exact # of milligrams to take everyday. The difference is you actually have to think when using juice unlike recreational drugs. BTW the war on drugs comment earlier was nice i thought you really had a good point going there. well thats just my $0.02 on it all
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posted March 01, 2000 02:41 PM            

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I will bump this... It should be read by more.
There is a Ecstacy discusion on another post...Kind of relates...

NoLimits...

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posted March 01, 2000 03:05 PM            

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Wanna bump the above comments. Intellegent comments by some Intellegent people. Its funny how the general public looks for health benifits from recreational drugs that were not intended for health, and look at anabolics which were intended to be put into a living person as some kind of poision. I don't look down on most rec. drug use but how's the saying go, don't don't point out a splinter in my eye when there's a 2x4 in yours. Put your regular using rec drug user next to some of the bro's on this board and any person with half a brain can tell you who's healthier. Nobody seems to mention the fact that America as a whole is one of the "fattest" countries in the world. I wonder whats healthier eating a lb. of Cheetos and Twinkies a day or living off of Protien shakes, Tunafish, and Vitamins.

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posted March 02, 2000 09:05 AM         

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Interesting replys.......Keep this thread going, I am going to use some of the responses in a newsletter I put out.

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posted March 02, 2000 09:55 AM         

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Amen, but you all are preaching to the people who understand most that we are doing nothing but enhancing ourselves in something we enjoy and if it's to our detriment so be it but at least we don't kill others like drunk drivers or second hand smoke etc...

We know we're right.. F'K uncle sam!!!!

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posted March 02, 2000 10:38 AM         

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BUMP BUMP vinman6967 !!! I totally agree with you. Each one makes his choice , juice or not juice , but in case you juice this will not cause any problem to the others at all. If a guy smokes near me , I HATE SMOKE , it's bad for me !!! And in any pub I go , there is always too much fuckin' smoke !!! If a guy drinks to much he can cause an accident and kill innocent people !!! You know what I mean ??? Do what you want , drink , any drug , smoke , BUT stay away from me and my family !!!

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posted March 02, 2000 05:36 PM            

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It is good to see posts like these on this board .I am giving all of u guys who replied a big hell yeah for your opinions.

I try to preach the same things about Rec drugs and Anabolics but peolple are very miss informed .So they say i will die a slow painful death.But I just give them the Finger.

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